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ArgyllGran
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26 May 2015 15:26 |
Rummaging around for Mary (without success), I found that, interestingly, Mary's mother is named as Alice Maud at her baptism. Presumably just a mistake:
Baptism entry
County Lincolnshire Place Scunthorpe Church name St John Register type Register entry number 58 Baptism date 21 Sep 1890 Person forename Mary Ethel Person sex F Person abode Scunthorpe Father forename James Father surname GRAY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Alice Maud 99%) ELWIS Alice Marian Glanford B. 7a 1455 Gray James Glanford B. 7a 1455
Throughout the 1891-1911 censuses posted on page 1 of this thread, she's Alice Maria
I assume this is her marriage, from FreeBMD. There's no sign of this marriage on FreeReg2 in the Parish Registers: Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%) ELWIS Alice Marian Glanford B. 7a 1455 Gray James Glanford B. 7a 1455
And her birth - name as you said in your OP , Jane:
Births Mar 1859 (>99%) ELVIDGE Alice Maria Thorne 9c 489
EDIT - later:
But on the baptism transcription on FamilySearch, she's Alice Maria:
Mary Ethel Gray England Births and Christenings Name: Mary Ethel Gray Gender: Female Christening Date: 21 Sep 1890 Christening Place: Saint Johns, Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Father's Name: James Gray Mother's Name: Alice Maria
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Jacqueline
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26 May 2015 13:47 |
I just wish it could have been positive, rather than the opposite.
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Jane
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26 May 2015 13:44 |
Thanks Jacqueline.
Well that confirms that my Mary Ethal Gray did not marry George Stainton.
Thanks for all your help
Jane
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Jacqueline
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26 May 2015 12:45 |
This is the birth of the woman who married Stainton (just for absolute confirmation)
Births Sep 1889 (>99%) Gray Mary Ethel Pancras 1b 60
And 1891/1901 with her father Charles
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Great Saffron Hill, Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents and Ely Place, Holborn, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Gray Head Married Male 24 1867 Printer General Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England Transcription Emma Gray Wife Married Female 22 1869 - Strand, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary E Gray Daughter - Female 1 1890 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England Transcription
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1, Maiden Row, Louth, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ralph Robinson Head Married Male 60 1841 General Dealer Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Rose Robinson Wife F Female 55 1846 - Derbyshire, England Transcription Charles Gray Boarder Married Male 33 1868 Printer Mechineman London, Middlesex, England Transcription Mary Gray Boarder F Female 12 1889 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription John Gray Boarder Married Male 9 1892 - London, Middlesex, England
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Jane
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26 May 2015 12:31 |
Thanks ArgyllGran
So that means she didn't marry Charles Would and she didn't marry George Stainton. So perhaps she was the other child that died. Strange I couldn't see a deat for her.
thanks for helping
Jane
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ArgyllGran
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26 May 2015 11:27 |
Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%) Gray Mary E Woulds Gainsbro 7a 1242 WOULDS Charles W Gray Gainsbro 7a 1242
There were 5 children of that marriage, 1914-28, all Gainsborough.
EDIT: No that's not her:
Mary Elizabeth Woulds in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mary Elizabeth Woulds Birth Date: 22 Aug 1893 Date of Registration: Mar 1978 Age at Death: 84 Registration district: Gainsborough Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7 Page: 1647
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ArgyllGran
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26 May 2015 11:22 |
Just for our reference:
Mary E Stainton in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Mary E Stainton Birth Date: abt 1891 Date of Registration: Mar 1947 Age at Death: 56 Registration district: Scunthorpe Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 3b Page: 457
Burial entry
County Lincolnshire Place Keddington Church name St Margaret Register type Register entry number 790 Burial date 08 Jan 1947 Person age 56 Burial person forename Mary Ethel Burial person surname STAINTON Burial person abode Memorial Hospital Scunthorpe Notes note in margin section 1 C.8
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Jane
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26 May 2015 11:19 |
Thanks ArgyllGran and Yvonne
I do not know anything about him. I only found out about a possible marriage today. But if the 1911 census is correct then it doesn't look as if she married him. I will have to take another look at the marriage between a Mary E gray and a mr Charles W Would in Gainsborough Mar 1914. I am just guessing here I have no idea if she married or not.
Jane
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malyon
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26 May 2015 11:16 |
Deaths Dec 1951 (>99%) STAINTON George W 63 Louth 3b 321
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ArgyllGran
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26 May 2015 11:02 |
Do you know any more about George Stainton?
Where and when born? Occupation?
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Jane
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26 May 2015 10:10 |
For info
Hannah Gray was her sister and she went on to marry Harry Kirk.
Jane
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26 May 2015 10:07 |
I have had a look at the deaths on FreeBMD and I can't find her there. So I guess she must be hiding somewhere.
Thanks again
Jane
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Jacqueline
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26 May 2015 09:53 |
For INFO
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 102, Frodingham Road, Scunthorpe, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edwin Beven Head Married Male 42 1859 Clerk At Blast Furacers Scotland Transcription Annie Beven Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription Guy Beven Son Single Male 18 1883 Clerk At Blast Furacers Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Edgar Beven Son Single Male 15 1886 Monumental Mason Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Richard Beven Son Single Male 11 1890 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Alfred Beven Son Single Male 3 1898 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Hannah Gray Servant Single Female 14 1887 General Servant Domtic Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
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Jane
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26 May 2015 09:52 |
Thanks Jacqueline
That's true she seems to have disappeared off the 1901. I will have to have a look into that. I can account for one of the children who died but not the other so perhaps it was her. I will take a closer looks at the deaths.
All the best
Jane
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Jacqueline
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26 May 2015 09:39 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8, 2 Street North, Frodingham, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Gray Head Married Male 43 1858 Iron Stone Quarry Man Yorkshire, England Transcription Alice Maria Gray Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Amcotts, Lincolnshire, England Transcription James Alexadra Gray Son N Male 7 1894 - Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Edith Edwards Gray Son - Male 2 1899 - Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Eva Barrass Visitor Single Female 14 1887 - Hull, Yorkshire, England
I wonder where Mary was...............she would have been only 9 or 10 years old
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Jacqueline
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26 May 2015 09:38 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7 Trent St Frodingham, Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James Gray Head - Male 52 1859 Rawcliffe Yokshire Horseman For Carter Transcription Alice Marrie Gray Wife - Female 52 1859 Amcotts Lincolnshire - Transcription James Alenador Gray Son Single Male 17 1894 Frodingham Lincolnshire Chemical Worker Transcription Cyril Gray Son - Male 8 1903 Frodingham Lincolnshire School
9 children.......2 have died
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Jacqueline
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26 May 2015 09:34 |
Posting for INFO
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Screeds, Ashby, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Gray Head Married Male 32 1859 Furnace Labourer Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England Transcription Alice Maria Gray Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Amcotts, Lincolnshire, England Transcription John William Gray Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Newland, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Elwitt Gray Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Newland, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Hannah Jane Gray Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Mary E Gray Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Charles T D Insull Visitor - Male 3 1888 - Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England
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Jacqueline
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26 May 2015 09:33 |
Births Sep 1890 (>99%) Gray Mary Ethel Glanford B. 7a 664
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Jane
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26 May 2015 09:29 |
Hi Jacqueline.
Thanks for your help
Well that extra information from the 1911 census makes me think that maybe this is not my Mary Ethal. Oh dear further investigation is required.
All the best
Jane
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26 May 2015 09:24 |
Thanks Jacqueline.
Yes I did. I found 5 possibles all born Louth.. Georgina M b 1912 Frederick C b1914 John b 1920 Joan b 1921 Basil born 1929
However I didn't know about Charles.
also there was only one marriage beween a Gray and Stainton so they had to be hers. I had previously thought that she married a MR Would in 1914. Which just goes to show that you have to confirm everything you find.
Thanks again for helping me
Jane.
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