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You sure this is'nt the son??

Name: William Bates
Birth Date: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Mar 1919*************
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Fareham
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 1057

Mel's post above (which I had looked at but won't duplicate) - on original shows a list of Repatriated Seamen ex of the SS Balla(?sar/sat/rat)

William John Bates is shown as an AB (or Able Seaman) with a proposed address in UK of 68 Rokeby Road, SE4

Thank you Maddie, this could well be John Frederick Bates. I can find no record of a death for Alice Bates prior to 1911 though. So this gives me another conundrum!

Thanks again, Lainey :-S

cant see a death for alice bates between 1901 and 1911 wonder if she left john or married again

Name: William John Bates
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 48
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 20 Nov 1925
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
Ship Name: Kinfauns Castle
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Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 110173

Address 68, Rokeby Road S E 4.

could this be john in 1911
Name: John Bates
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Paid Asst
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sholing, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: West End
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: South Stoneham, Union Workhouse, West End, Southampton
Marital Status: Widower (Widowed)
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: South Stoneham
Registration District Number: 100
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 6064

I am researching my family but have hit a brick wall. Their details are:

John Frederick Bates born in Hound, Sholing, Southampton c1856. He married Alice Amber born in Devizes c1856. They were married in Bursledon Hampshire on 5 December 1875. They had a son named William John Drew Bates who was baptized 10th September 1876 in Bursledon Hampshire. I do not know if they had more children.

In 1891 they were all living in South Stoneham, Hampshire. John was a Market Gardener. His son worked as a Junior Clerk.

In 1901 John and Alice Bates were living in South Stoneham. They were running a Pub. There is no sign of their son William.

Now I do know that William John Drew Bates married and died in South Africa.

There seems to be no record of his parents after 1901. If anyone else has these people in their family tree I would be very pleased to hear from them.

Many thanks, Lainey :-D