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malyon

malyon Report 21 May 2015 18:20


Herbert King
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name:
Herbert King
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Bolsover, Derbyshire, England
Registration District:
Chesterfield
Gender:
Male
Age:
16
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Birth Date:
1885
Birthplace:
Langley Mill, Derbyshire
Schedule Type:
Household

Unknown

Unknown Report 21 May 2015 11:39

thanks for all your help I had got most of this information but discounted it because he had always said he came from derbyshire. I will get the marriage certificate to see what other details I can get from it
yvonne

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 May 2015 13:14

If you want accurate info, get a copy of the King/Sabin marriage cert

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 May 2015 09:21

The records Chris posted are available on FindMyPast:

These both relate to the same man (father William):

British Army Service Records 1760-1915
First name(s) HUBERT CHARLES
Last name KING
Birth year 1888
Birth parish GLOUCESTER
Birth town GLOUCESTER
Birth county GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 8284
Rank ­
Regiment Gloucestershire Regiment ­ 28th & 61st Foot
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1906 Attestation Day 13 Attestation Month 9
Attestation age years 18 Attestation age months 5
Attestation Corps Gloucestershire Regiment
Attestation service number 8284
Discharge Corps Gloucestershire Regiment

and

Royal Marines 1899-1919
First name(s) Hubert Charles
Last name King
Birth year 1888
Birth date 13 Mar 1888
Service number 14012
Enrolment date 04 May 1907
Division full text Royal Marine Light Infantry: Plymouth Division
Archive reference ADM 159/154/14012
Catalogue description Admiralty: Royal Marines: Registers of Service

Looks like he joined the Marines after discharge from the Gloucesters. He was discharged from the Marines in 1912 so possibly re-enlisted in army for WW1.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 May 2015 09:13

Yvonne, if you have the medals then around the rim of the medal should be his name, rank service number and regiment (although many I've seen are quite badly worn).

Can you decipher anything from them and post it on here?

A useful guide to medals:

http://www.greatwar.co.uk/medals/ww1-campaign-medals.htm

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 May 2015 08:59

To go back further with Hubert, you need 1919 Marriage Cert., will give name of his Father (hopefully!) to get right one.

Chris :)

(couple from National Archives)

Name King, Hubert Charles
Register Number: 14012
Division: Royal Marine Light Infantry: Plymouth Division
When Enlisted/Date of Enlistment: 04 May 1907
Date of Birth: 13 March 1888


Medal card of King, Hubert C
Army Service Corps T4/173038 Private

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 May 2015 16:01

thanks to everyone who replied to my posts all information on lizzie king nee sabin is what i've found. hubert charles kings name is on death certificate of william sabin lizzie sabins dad. Hubert had the nick name of either ube or jube.he also served in ww1 have found two medals which i presumed belong to him but don't know how to verify this, also some photos in uniform.
from yvonne

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 May 2015 20:00

message sent to Yvonne advising there is info on here for her

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 May 2015 20:00

Nottinghamshire baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Lizzie
Last name Sabin
Baptism year 1898
Baptism date 20 Apr 1898
Denomination Anglican
Church St John the Evangelist
Baptism place Hucknall Torkard
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Sabin
Mother's first name(s) Martha
Mother's last name Sabin
Residence 8 Betts Street
County Nottinghamshire


Births Mar 1896 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------
Sabin Elizabeth Basford 7b 240

(if her)

Chris :)


(Glos. one below)

Birth
KING Hubert Charles KING KING (Mother Maiden Name) POCKET 1888 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 53 137

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2015 19:26

I think that is the only way to go on this one Gritty.

The best place to purchase certificates Yvonne is online here...

www.gro.gov.uk/

Gritty

Gritty Report 9 May 2015 19:21

I did wonder if this was his birth it's a year out from the birth date given on the death record, but registered in the correct quarter:

First name(s) HUBERT CHARLES
Last name KING
Birth year 1894
Birth quarter 4
District YORK
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D Page 30

I'm struggling to see him on any census. It may be easier to buy his marriage certifcate which will give you his age and father's name.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2015 19:18

The 1901 and 1911 census is for the Hubert who was born in 1888...so not the right Hubert.

2 trees on Ancestry have Hubert and Lizzie in their trees but unfortunately no details for Hubert regarding his birth.

A very nice photo of them though.

This is the death for the Hubert who was born in 1888....

Hubert C King in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Hubert C King
Birth Date:abt 1888
Date of Registration:Jun 1942
Age at Death:54
Registration district:Gloucester City
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:581


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2015 19:07

I think the death that Griity posted for Hubert is the correct one. (Born 1893)

Lizzie King in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Lizzie King
Birth Date:6 Feb 1896
Date of Registration:Mar 1976
Age at Death:80
Registration district:Basford
Inferred County:Nottinghamshire
Volume:8
Page:0125

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 May 2015 19:07


Name:
Stanley Maurice King
Event Type:
Death Registration
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year:
2003
Registration District:
Basford
County:
Nottinghamshire
Event Place:
Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969):
31 Oct 1923
Volume:
6853
Page:
E18A

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 May 2015 19:05


Name:
Charles Hubert King
Event Type:
Death
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:
2006
Registration District:
Mansfield
County:
Nottinghamshire
Event Place:
Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969):
21 Nov 1932
Volume:
6871C
Page:
C33D

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 May 2015 19:04


Name:
Charles H King
Event Type:
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:
1932
Registration District:
Basford
County:
Nottinghamshire
Event Place:
Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Sabin
Volume:
7B
Page:
342
Line Number:
45

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 May 2015 19:03


Name:
Stanley M King
Event Type:
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:
1923
Registration District:
Basford
County:
Nottinghamshire
Event Place:
Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Sabin

Volume:
7B
Page:
441
Line Number:
73

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 May 2015 19:00


Name:
Lizzie Sabin
Event Type:
Marriage
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:
1919
Registration District:
Basford
County:
Nottinghamshire
Event Place:
Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
King
Volume:
7B
Page:
542
Line Number:
52


Lizzie Sabin probably married one of the following people
Name: Hubert C King

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 May 2015 18:59


Name:
Lizzie Sabin
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England
Registration District:
Basford
Gender:
Female
Age:
5
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Birth Date:
1896
Birthplace:
Hucknall Tkd, Nottinghamshire
Schedule Type:
Household

Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1901/3155-3157/0158&parentid=GBC/1901/0017509752

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 May 2015 18:51

Are you certain he was born in 1888?

Do you know if he died in Nottinghamshire? Re..:the death that Gritty posted which states he was born in 1893?