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Agnes Ivy Fathers

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MAUREEN

MAUREEN Report 30 Apr 2015 10:57

I am looking for siblings of Agnes, born 1904, Chesterfield, some siblings would have been born in Kiveton Park, Yorkshire I think, not having much luck, if you can point me in the right direction please, any help appreciated.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Apr 2015 11:06

Hi Maureen

Who are the parents of Agnes??

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Apr 2015 11:10

How about this.....

??

Agnes Mary Fathers in the 1911 England Census
Name:Agnes Mary Fathers
Age in 1911:29
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1882
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Killamarsh, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish:Wales
County/Island:Nottinghamshire
Country:England
Street address:14 Albert Terrace Kiveton Park Yorkshire England
Marital Status:Married
Registration district:Worksop
Registration district:Worksop
Registration District Number:427
Sub-registration district:Anston

Household Members:


Robert Fathers 52 (Coal Miner Hewer) Kiverton Park Yorkshire (Age 32 on the image)
Agnes Mary Fathers 29
Edward Fathers 8
Ivy Fathers 7 <<<<<<Killamarsh Derbyshire
George Robert Fathers 4
May Fathers 2

Married 11 years........5 children born, 4 living, 1 had died.

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Apr 2015 11:15

Name: Agnes Ivy Fathers
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 861

Birth cert. will give you her parents if not know.

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Apr 2015 11:19

Same couple in 1901

Name: George R Fathers
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Son-in-law (Son)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Kiveton Park, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Killamarsh
Ecclesiastical parish: Killamarsh St Giles
Town: Killamarsh
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: 57 High Street
Occupation: Miner Underground
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3257
Folio: 156
Page Number: 13
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel R Attewell 46
Alice Attewell 42
xxxx Agnes M Fathers 19
George H H Rodgers 8 (noted as cousin)
xxxx George R Fathers 21


On 1911 census the parents of Agnes have adopted George Henry Horace Rodgers)
..........................

Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%)
xxxxx ATTIWELL Agnes Mary Chesterfield 7b 982
BERESFORD Mary Chesterfield 7b 982
BUXTON Ernest Chesterfield 7b 982
xxxxx FATHERS George Robert Chesterfield 7b 982

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Apr 2015 11:23

If above is correct, then these could be possible children born after 1911 census:-

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Fathers Alice Attiwell Worksop 7b 99

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
FATHERS Rose Attiwell Worksop 7b 75

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Fathers Elizabeth D Attiwell Worksop 7b 95

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Apr 2015 11:28

Just for info:-
1911 original clearly shows age of Robert as 32yrs (not 52yrs)

Also the couple have been married for 11yrs, Children (5 born - 4 living and 1 died)

Reg. dist. is Worksop so if correct family then births posted earlier could very well be their children.

..................................

2 Possible for the child who died:-

Births Jun 1905 (>99%)
Fathers Doris Worksop 7b 38
Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%)
Fathers Doris 0 Worksop 7b 21

or

Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Fathers Leonard Worksop 7b 42
Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
Fathers Leonard 0 Worksop 7b 25

Dea

Dea Report 30 Apr 2015 11:29


A different age on here for Robert:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14 Albert Terrace Kiveton Park Near Sheffield, Wales, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Robert Fathers Head Married Male 32 1879 Kiveton Park Yorkshire Coal Miner Hewer

Agnes Mary Fathers Wife Married Female 29 1882 Killamarsh Derbyshire -

Edward Fathers Son - Male 8 1903 Killamarsh Derbyshire Schools

Ivy Fathers Daughter - Female 7 1904 Killamarsh Derbyshire School

George Robert Fathers Son - Male 4 1907 Kiveton Park Yorkshire School

May Fathers Daughter - Female 2 1909 Kiveton Park Yorkshire -

Dea x

MAUREEN

MAUREEN Report 30 Apr 2015 11:40

That is amazing, thank you all. My Nan's parents were (I thought George Robert Fathers and Agnes Mary Atti(e)well. They were 21 and 19 respectively when they married. I am concerned that I have got everyone mixed up!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Apr 2015 11:46

Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
FATHERS Edward Richard Chesterfield 7b 838

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
FATHERS George Robert Worksop 7b 37

Births Mar 1909 (>99%)
FATHERS May Worksop 7b 35

MAUREEN

MAUREEN Report 30 Apr 2015 11:46

The informant on the birth certificate was Agnes Mary 57 High Street Killamarsh.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Apr 2015 11:48

Robert on the 1911 census is actually George Robert.......he obviously preferred his middle name of Robert when he filled out the census form.

So you are on the right track!

Prickles. :-)

Dea

Dea Report 30 Apr 2015 11:48

Well that confirms it then - the address is the same as the family on 1901 census.

Dea x

MAUREEN

MAUREEN Report 30 Apr 2015 12:02

There are prople mentioned I didn't know existed, thank you Dea, Prickly Holly and Catherine. The names I recall from my Nan telling me were Doreen, Peg and David. I can't find them anywhere.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Apr 2015 13:08

There is another child born in 1917......


Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Fathers Daniel Attewell Worksop 7b 84

And......

Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
Fathers Margaret M Attiwall Worksop 7b 63


MAUREEN

MAUREEN Report 30 Apr 2015 13:17

Thank you so much, do you think there is a Doreen, the only one I can find was born in 1952. I vaguely remember David when I was a little girl, he was born about the same time as my Dad 1929. But there again I can't find him.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Apr 2015 13:23

Might the David you refer to actually be Daniel?

Maybe Margaret's nick name was Peg/Peggy and Elizabeth middle name was Doreen.

As you can see from the 1911 census........George called himself Robert and Agnes is down as Ivy.

Just a thought.

Plus Agnes Mary would have been about 47 years old in 1929. Probably a bit too old to be giving birth to a child.

Prickles. x

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Apr 2015 13:47

Glad to see that we have the correct family. :-)

Do you need anything else Maureen, or would you like to do further research yourself?


The only Davied Fathers born between 1900 an d1930 were:-

Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
FATHERS David Sunderland 10a 636
Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
FATHERS David Easington 10a 495

..................so not at all in the correct area.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Apr 2015 14:09

Ah..........Daniel died the following year.


Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
Fathers Daniel 1 Worksop 7b 56

MAUREEN

MAUREEN Report 30 Apr 2015 14:09

Thank you Catherine, I am well equipped now I think to do some research myself. You help has been invaluable and appreciated. :-)