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Eunice

Eunice Report 9 Apr 2015 22:36

This is for a work colleague, and info is a bit sparse, but this is what she knows: Walter was born c 1889, in Lincolnshire. Or was he? on the 1901 census he is down as being born in Nettleton, Lincs, aged 12 years son of Fred and Charlotte Wackett. on the 1901 census he is aged 22, single, but place of birth is given as Navan, Ireland, and he is registered as a nephew. I have found his war records from WW1 and he was discharged towards the end of the war having lost an eye, but on the Military sheet, Fed is back down as father??? I have found other Wackett's on Ancestry who were born in Navan, so maybe there are links, but checking what access I have to irish records have not yet found anything new. My colleagues late mother said he was always treated a little differently, and there is speculation he may not have been Charlotte and Fred's son, but a cousin?
Please note, he is NOT the Walter Wackett b 1889 in St Pancras, London. I could not find him on free BMD. He never married, and died in 1966. Any thoughts, good people?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Apr 2015 22:49

1911 just for info

Name: Walter Wackett
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Nephew
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Navan, Ireland
Civil Parish: Great Limber
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Gt Limber Brocklesby
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Waggoner On Farm
Registration district: Caistor
Registration District Number: 423
Sub-registration district: Caistor
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 20024
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredrick Wackett 50
Charlotte Wackett 48
Charles Wackett 25
Walter Wackett 22
Elizebeth Wackett 19
Arthur Wackett 15
Frank Wackett 7
Tom Dobbs 23
Charles Dyas 24
George Harrison 16



Just for info
Name: Walter Wackett
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1889
Enlistment Age: 27
Document Year: 1916
Residence Place: Limber, Grimsby
Regimental Number: 4492
Regiment Name: Bedfordshire Regiment
Number of Images: 22

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Apr 2015 22:50

This in Ireland

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958



Name:Walter Whackett
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1888
Registration district:Navan
Volume:2
Page:761
FHL Film Number:
101062

Andy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Apr 2015 22:51

1901 just for info

Name: Walter Wickett
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Fred Wackett
Mother: Charlotte Wackett
Birth Place: Nettleton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Barton on Humber
Ecclesiastical parish: Barton on Humber St Peter
Town: Barton on Humber
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3108
Folio: 114
Page Number: 26
Household schedule number: 164
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Wackett 41
Charlotte Wackett 38
Charles Wickett 5
Clara Wickett 13
Walter Wickett 12
Charlotte Wickett 11
Elizth Wickett 9
Arthur Wickett 5
George Twidle 22
Herbert Johnson 21
Ernest Hickerbottom 20

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Apr 2015 22:56

Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
Wackett Walter Glanford B. 7a 704


1891 presume you have ruled this one out

Name: Walter Wackett
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: John Wackett
Mother's name: Annie E Wackett
Gender: Male
Where born: Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Spalding
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Nicholas
Town: Spalding
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Spalding
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2563
Folio: 36
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
John Wackett 38
Annie E Wackett 33
Julia Wackett 12
Annie Wackett 9
Charles Wackett 7
Edith Wackett 5
Walter Wackett 4
Laura Wackett 2
Maud Wackett 0


First name(s) Walter
Last name Wackett
Gender Male
Birth year 1886
Birth place Scimthorpe
Baptism year 1893
Baptism date 16 Jun 1893
Baptism place note Baptized at chapel
Residence Deeping-Market, Lincoln, England
Place Deeping, Market
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Wackett
Mother's first name(s) Annie Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Eunice

Eunice Report 9 Apr 2015 22:59

That's interesting, Andrew, and I note the difference in spelling. As you can see on Glitter's post, they were down as Wickett, but I have not done that variant of spelling as you give. Thank you.

Eunice

Eunice Report 9 Apr 2015 23:01

Thanks GB, I had seen this and wondered but Joanne (the work colleague) didn't seem so convinced I will ask again. Thank you.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Apr 2015 23:08

The Walter Wackett shown on 1891 is still with his parents in 1901 but shown as a policeman on 1911

How does your friend know which is the right one?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Apr 2015 23:10

Okay so the one born 1886/7 married in 1911 and died in 1955 Horncastle

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Apr 2015 23:18

Also in Navan. Bit of speculation.

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958

A sister?


Name:Anne Whackett
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1887
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1887
Death Age:0
Registration district:Navan
Volume:2
Page:694
FHL Film Number:
101594


and parents????????


Name:Thomas Whackett
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1851
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1890
Death Age:39
Registration district:Navan
Volume:2
Page:577
FHL Film Number:101596



Name:Anne Whackett
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1849
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1892
Death Age:43
Registration district:Navan
Volume:2
Page:584
FHL Film Number:101597

Eunice

Eunice Report 9 Apr 2015 23:26

G-B, when I told her about the policeman and his family, she checked other records that shad and asked other family members about the various names, but no one has any family info really, but she said there were no links to Scunthorpe. I won't see her again now until Tuesday, but will ask her again.
Andrew- I have seen other Wacketts/Whackets,too, and have noted the link to Navan. I can't help but think they are related somehow. I know where Navan is as luck would have it, we have a friend who lives in Trim, which is a close by village. Both are tiny places.
Thank you both for your interest, anyway.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Apr 2015 23:29

Just for info as I think this is the London one and could be Wackett on image

First name(s) Walter
Last name Waskett
Relationship to household head -
Gender Male
Age 23
Birth year 1888
Birth place London Middlesex
Occupation None
Address Outram Bks Lucknow
Parish -
County Overseas Military
Country Ships And Overseas Establishments
Registration district number 641
Subdistrict number 13
Enumeration district 8
Piece number 34988
Piece Number Suffix -
Schedule number 9999
Schedule Suffix -
Census reference RG14PN34988 RD641 SD13 ED8 SN9999
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales

He is on 1891 and 1901 census

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Apr 2015 07:30

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Market Deeping
Church St Guthlac
RegisterNumber 1182
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 16 Jun 1893
Forename Walter
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Annie Elizabeth
FatherSurname WACKETT
MotherSurname
Abode Market Deeping
FatherOccupation Inspector Of Police
Notes W W Howard Rector Walter Born At Scumthorpe Aug 21 1886 W W Howard Rector NB The Abovenamed Children All Having Been Baptised At Chapel Were Duly Received Into The Church June 16 1893


(if relating anywhere, from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

edits (13 siblings at same time!)


County Lincolnshire
Place Holbeach
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 195
MarriageDate 20 Jun 1905
GroomForename John
GroomSurname WACKETT
GroomAge 52
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation Inspector of Police
GroomAbode Holbeach
BrideForename Eliza Hannah
BrideSurname MAY
BrideAge 36
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideAbode Holbeach
GroomFatherForename William
GroomFatherSurname WACKETT
GroomFatherOccupation Gardener
BrideFatherForename Thomas C
BrideFatherSurname MAY
BrideFatherOccupation deceased - Groom
WitnessOneForename Thomas K
WitnessOneSurname MAY
WitnessTwoForename Gertrude E
WitnessTwoSurname MAY
Notes after banns


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Holbeach
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 416
BurialDate 05 Mar 1904
Forename Ann Elizabeth
Relationship Wife of
Rel1MaleForename John
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname WACKETT
Surname WACKETT
Age 46
Abode Police Station Holbeach


08 September 1882 - Lincolnshire Chronicle - Lincoln, Lincolnshire,

Marriage
At the Primitive Methodist Chapel, Garibaldi-street, Grimsby, the 3rd inst., Fred Wackett to Charlotte Houseman, both of Nettleton.


Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Houseman Charlotte Caistor 7a 1051
WACKETT Fred Caistor 7a 1051

Eunice

Eunice Report 10 Apr 2015 08:47

13 siblings??!! My, what fecundity!!! I will pass it on. Thank you :-)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Apr 2015 08:49

How does your friend connect with this family?

Eunice

Eunice Report 10 Apr 2015 10:24

Jacqueline, my friend Jo Battersby, was born in Lincolnshire to Jack Earley and Phyllis Cawley; Phyllis was the daughter of Fred Cawley and Clara Wackett. Clara was the daughter of Fred and Charlotte Wackett, who are the ? parents or cousins of the said Walter. Jo has lived in Lancashire for many years so does not have access to much info currently, hence she has asked me to try and find any information. The elderly aunts and her mother have been dead for years so cannot ask them anymore. All she says is that he seemed to be treated "differently" by family members, according to her mum's account and that of others (Jo was born in 1965 so never actually knew Walter, he died the following year) and not in a nice way, as though there was something odd about him?. A thought I have put to her, is that was there ever any question about his sexual orientation? Everyone she knows has wondered if he was the illegitimate son of an unmarried Wackett, and taken in by Fred and Charlotte , but people at those times were also rather nasty if someone was gay. But of course, this doe not explain the discrepancies on the census, that he was Fred and Charlotte's son born in Lincolnshire one minute, and a nephew from Ireland the next!!!! Sadly I doubt if we will ever know. Like so many mysteries, if only family had questioned before it was too late and sunk in the memory of time?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Apr 2015 13:14

Do you have that 1882 Marriage Cert. of Fred?...

(Father of John on his second Marriage as William)

Chris :)


Eunice

Eunice Report 11 Apr 2015 09:31

no Chris, I have checked the file she has given me but I don't see it. I will tell her when I see her next at work on Tuesday, and she can order it if she wants. Thanks.:-)

malyon

malyon Report 11 Apr 2015 09:56


Walter Whackett
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes
Name: Walter Whackett
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: Jul - Sep 1888
Event Place: Navan, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1888
Registration District: Navan
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 761
GS Film number: 101062 , Digital Folder Number: 004193976 , Image Number: 00245

Eunice

Eunice Report 11 Apr 2015 14:22

that's interesting Yvonne. I have never accessed Irish records like this before, would you know how we get a certificate please? Many thanks, E,