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Trying to find info on my relative, Whitwam

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Mar 2015 23:48

message from November ........


I will get a copy of birth certificate then get his mothers M certificate.
thank you for your help

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Mary

Mary Report 29 Mar 2015 15:24

1891Longwood D13 > 25
Hannah Maria Cranien with parents John and Elizabeth Ann.

1891 longwood D13 >9
Fred Whitwam 1866 with grandparents
Joseph Morton and Sarah Morton.

This Fred is son of Alfred Whitwam 1838/9 and Eliza Morton 1847-1874.
Alfred then remarried Emma.

1871Scapegoat Hill
Alfred a Plasterer and Painter (same as Fred on 1911 census)
Eliza
Fred 4
Henry 9months.

Parents of Alfred Whitwam were John @ 1808 and Charlotte nee Beaumont.

Henry Whitwam brother to Fred married Abigail Hey born 1871 and had among others William Pogson Whitwam 1911 died 1912.

Abigail Hey parents were John Pogson and Emma Hey nee Gledhill.

So this Fred looks to be a likely contender for your Fred who married Hannah Maria in 1892.

Maryb

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Mar 2015 03:46

it looks as though Cromien might be the correct spelling for Hannah Maria's surname ..............


this is the spelling on the Probate Record in 1924


and on his death registration ..............


Deaths Jun 1924 (>99%)

Cromien John 74 Huddersfield 9a 446

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Mar 2015 03:40

marriage of Hannah Maria's parents ............


Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)

Cromie John Huddersfield 9a 444
POGSON Elizabeth Ann Huddersfield 9a 44

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Mar 2015 03:29


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Hannah Maria Cromie
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Huddersfield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 408

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Mar 2015 00:38

As Mary said, there is a man missing from the record of Hannah Maria's registration ..............


Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)

Cromien Hannah Maria Huddersfield 9a 648


I think this might be Fred .................. with the page number mis-read.

I've looked at the image, and it looks as if it might be 648 rather than 618


Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)

WHITWAM Fred Huddersfield 9a 618






Hannah Maria's maiden name will be on Sir Joseph's birth certificate ...........................

what is it?


If you don't have the actual certificate, I strongly suggest that you buy it.



Then you can order Hannah Maria and Fred's marriage certificate using ONLY Hannah Maria's name and information

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Mar 2015 00:30

Ida's baptism


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910

Name: Ida Whitwam
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1898
Parish: Longwood, St Mark
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1898
Father's name: Fred Whitwam
Mother's name: Hannah Maria Whitwam

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Mar 2015 00:21

Fred and Hannah Maria in 1901, with John Alfred and Ida


1901 Census

Name: Fred Whitwam
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Hannah Maria Whitwam
Birth Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Longwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Longwood St Mark
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Lockwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 26

Piece: 4111
Folio: 137
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 68

Fred Whitwam 36 Plasterer & Painter
Hannah Maria Whitwam 26 b.ca 1875, Huddersfield, Serge Woollen Weaver
John Alfred Whitwam 8 b.ca 1893, Huddersfield
Ida Whitwam 3 b.ca 1898, Huddersfield

Address:- 2 Mount

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

November

November Report 29 Mar 2015 00:10

Hi Dea, my aunties & uncles name Sir Joseph & Emma Whitwam think it could have been an anniversary or something l was at school so l can't remember, only seeing the cutting & photo of them.

November

November Report 29 Mar 2015 00:03

I have looked on Steve Whitwams site before, his is not the same family of Whitwams. If any one can help further into his mothers side or fathers side. There was a piece in a Huddersfield news paper 1960s along with a photo of my aunt & uncle when o was at school, they lived in Longwood for all of their lives, so fare l've not managed to trace it. I would be greatful of any help thankyou :) :-)

Mary

Mary Report 28 Mar 2015 20:35

Marriage O.N.D 1892 9a 648 Hannah Maria Cromien no male given
Birth of 1st child
John Alfred Whitwam 27/2/1893 baptised 1893 by Fred and Hannah Maria a weaver born 1875 of Mount Longwood.

1891 Mount Foot Longwood D13 . 25
John Cranien born Dublin night watchman
Elizabeth A nee Pogson born Huddersfield
Hannah Maria daughter born Huddersfield

1881 name John Crimey

John and Elizabeth are on 1911 census with Fred and Hannah Maria as boarders named Cromie.

John Cromien of 2,Upper Hurst died 1/4/1924 probate to among others is Hannah Maria Whitwam wife of fred.

Maryb.

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

Dea

Dea Report 28 Mar 2015 13:09

What were the names of your aunt and uncle and what was the article about?

Dea x

November

November Report 28 Mar 2015 12:54

I have looked on Steve Whitwams site before, his is not the same family of Whitwams. If any one can help further into Sir Joseph Whitwams mothers or fathers side. There was a piece in a Huddersfield news paper in 1960s along with a photo of my aunt & uncle when o was at school, they lived in Longwood for all of their lives, so fare l've not managed to trace it. I would be greatful of any help thankyou :-)

November

November Report 27 Mar 2015 21:14

Thank you for all replies to my post, I'm just studying them more tomorrow :-)

November

November Report 27 Mar 2015 21:14

Thank you for all replies to my post, I'm just studying them more tomorrow :-)

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 27 Mar 2015 21:11

google Steve Whitwams family history site, very interesting

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 27 Mar 2015 11:27

Welcome to the Community boards November.



(I'll let November know how to find their replies) :-)

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Mar 2015 09:28

In this instance, it's a forename, not a title

A friend has a boy named Doctor in her tree..........again , surprisingly, not uncommon

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Mar 2015 03:39

by Googling, I found the following ......


http://www.babynamespedia.com/search/m/sir


NAME MATCH:

Sir sire ...The baby boy name Sir is pronounced SER †... Sir is of English origin ...

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Mar 2015 03:36

yep ..................



think it was just a regional forename!!!


If you enter "sir" in the first name box of birth registrations and county Yorkshire on ancestry ...............



there are about 22 registrations for males with names beginning with Sir


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

24 results for Sir


Sir?S Auty 1867 Oct-Nov-Dec Wakefield Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Wilfred Chapman 1872 Jul-Aug-Sep Bradford Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Lancelot Crabtree 1851 Jan-Feb-Mar Bradford Yorkshire West Riding

James Sir Dawson 1865 Apr-May-Jun Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

Sir[ua]S Donkin 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar Beverley Yorkshire East Riding

Sir Martin Frobisher 1851 Apr-May-Jun Pontefract Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Edward E Hallford 1905 Jan-Feb-Mar Wakefield Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Vetis Hirst 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Halifax Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Athelst[a?]n P D'N De V Hodgson 1884 Jan-Feb-Mar Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Athelstan P D' N De V Hurst-hodgson 1884 Jan-Feb-Mar Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

Sir?efs John Lawson 1844 Jan-Feb-Mar Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Wilfred Laycock 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Skipton Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Alfred G Ness 1895 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire North Riding

Sir Wilfred L Nicholson 1876 Oct-Nov-Dec Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding

Sir John Peel 1871 Jul-Aug-Sep Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

George Sir Robinson 1872 Jul-Aug-Sep Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Harry Shaw 1902 Jan-Feb-Mar York Yorkshire East Riding

Sir Norman Shepherd 1908 Jul-Aug-Sep Bramley Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Charles Southwood 1854 Apr-May-Jun Hunslet Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Charles Southwood 1854 Apr-May-Jun Hunslet Yorkshire West Riding

Sir William Spencer 1877 Apr-May-Jun Richmond Yorkshire North Riding

Christopher Sir Steward 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

Sir Robert Warwick 1894 Oct-Nov-Dec Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding

Sir Joseph Whitwam 1901 Oct-Nov-Dec Huddersfield Yorkshire West Riding

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

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