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All I can say is that it may have been misunderstood about the name of John William. I know sometimes they put the second name down first as I have had this in my own tree. When some people were baptised they did'nt put their second names down too.

It all looks to me as though it fits.

There are so many deaths for a William about the same time too so it would mean buying an awful lot of death certs to get the right one.

I had a look for a probate but could'nt really find one. As he was a painter and glazier he had a good job and I thought there may have been a little money left to one of the children.

yes i have al this info but all of the williams i have quoted are just william and not john william as it says on margarets marriage even on the baptisim of william in 1805 just says william never a john mentioned this is what i said at beginning of my post why cant i find a john william graham when he dad was said to be john william as it is with all the info i have on william is this realy her dad or have i got the wrong margaret grahams prents

Linda it seems we are giving you info that you already have!

i have william grahams parents as william graham 1771 and isabella norton 1781 and parents of william graham 1771 are edward 1750 and ann who had another son sibbling to william graham 1771 edward 1782 who married isabella stephenson

yes i seen edward and isabella and found that edward was williams uncle , edward graham 1782 death 1857 isabella stephenson his wife 1781 went on to wed again and her name then was bolton her death was 1860 but i didnt see the hewison family i wounder if they are connected to mine

Interestingly, if you look back to the image of that 1841 census for Wm and Elizabeth you will see that there are more Grahams living next door (further up the page), including Edward, Isabella and family.

Edward is also a painter, could he be another one using a middle name (Wm's parents perhaps?)

2 households above them are a family called Hewson (could this be Hewison and related to Elizabeth?) - They are Butchers by trade.

Dea x

EDIT - The family is HEWISON on 1851 !

Dea x

thanks i have found 7 deaths for a elizabeth graham between june 1851 and march 1861 all in newcastle is there a way of narrowing them down as none give age at death

I got it from Familysearch.org the free Mormon site.

Their childrens christenings are also on there.

It may have been triscribed wrongly I suppose.

How about this?

They had naming patterns back in those days and William and Elizabeth seemed to have their parents names in their children.

Elizabeth Hewison

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth:
25 August 1807
christening:
14 February 1808
ALL SAINTS, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND


O Christened on my birthday all those years ago.............

i have a marriage for william graham and elizabeth hewison 29 april 1827 with witness george tweedy and henry cockburn , looks likethe same as you found with a little difference as in heison and hewison

it could be did you get if on hear

I wonder if this could be their marriage?

William Graham

England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage:
29 April 1827
St John Parish, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

spouse:
Elizabeth Henison

the 1841 census i have is
piece 845
book 6
folio 24
page 7

O thanks Dea. I know you keep your eye on me.

Right found them in 1841.

1841 England Census
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Name: Wm Graham
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: All Saints
Hundred: Tindale (West Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:PAINTER************************

Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 845
Book: 6
Folio: 24
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Graham 35
Elizabeth Graham 30
Mary Graham 13
Elizabeth Graham 11
William Graham 9
Isabella Graham 7
Alice Graham 3
Source Citation

Class: HO107; Piece: 845; Book: 6; Civil Parish: All Saints; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 24; Page: 7; Line: 24; GSU roll: 438897

i have william graham 1805 with parents william and isabella norton and william 1805 had other sibblings but cant seem to find a robert as one of his sibblings ,the witness to her wedding were thomas graham and martha graham [ hutchinson ] martha was john hutchinson sister and i have parents of thomas graham [ witness ] as james bewick graham 1826 and elizabeth rymer 1825

It will be this one Mel:


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bells Court, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Wm Graham Male 35 1806 Northumberland, England

Elizabeth Graham Female 30 1811 Northumberland, England

Mary Graham Female 13 1828 Northumberland, England

Elizabeth Graham Female 11 1830 Northumberland, England

William Graham Male 9 1832 Northumberland, England

Isabella Graham Female 7 1834 Northumberland, England

Alice Graham Female 3 1838 Northumberland, England

Dea x

Elizabeth whats the ref for the 1841 census please if you have found him on there.

I can't seem to find the parents on the 1841 census.