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7 Apr 2015 19:39 |
Thank you for all the interesting information and probable possibilities.
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7 Apr 2015 19:37 |
Hi Jacqueline, have had family staying for awhile. Not lost interest....I intend to 'catch up' when I have minutes to myself. ??. Just glancing over info I gave. Tug 'Wilson" my mistake.....should have said ILIFFE. I come from a naval family where In the navy Wilsons were nicknamed Tug. My sis in law said she remembered her uncle (an ILIFFE) being called Tug and she thought she remembered someone saying when she was young that he was murdered. (I suppose Tug Wilson must have been on my mind in error when I sent text).
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18 Mar 2015 14:33 |
This MAY be Sarah's father, but you need the 1864 marriage for confirmation
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Duck Paddle, Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Iliff Head Married Male 31 1820 Framework Knitter Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Charlotte Iliff Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Sileby, Leicestershire, England Transcription John Iliff Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 - Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Edmund Iliff Son Unmarried Male 10 1841 - Leicester, Leicestershire, England Transcription Mary Ann Iliff Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Leicester, Leicestershire, England Transcription Betsey Iliff Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription William Iliff Son - Male 3 1848 - Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Charlotte Iliff Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription
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18 Mar 2015 14:30 |
First name(s) Godfrey Last name Grewcock Gender Male Birth year 1832 Birth place Hinckley, Leicester, England Baptism year - Residence Hinckley, Leicester, England Place - County Leicestershire Country England Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Grewcock Mother's first name(s) Catharine Mother's last name Hill
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18 Mar 2015 14:28 |
First name(s) SARAH Last name GREWCOCK Birth year 1844 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District HINCKLEY County Leicestershire Country England Volume 15 Page 80
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Stockwell Head, Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Catherine Grewcock Head Widow Female 42 1809 Lace Ninner Leicestershire, England Transcription Godfrey Grewcock Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Wheelright Leicestershire, England Transcription Eliza Grewcock Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Seamer Leicestershire, England Transcription Sarah Grewcock Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1845 Seamer Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Emma Grewcock Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1847 At Home Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription
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16 Mar 2015 22:49 |
Finding Edward/Edmund before his marriage is proving tricky
If you wish to compile an accurate tree, I would advise that you obtain a copy of the cert of his marriage to Sarah Grewcock
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16 Mar 2015 22:48 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription (Oddfellows Arms), 79, Gladstone Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Iliffe Head Married Male 36 1865 Beer House Keeper Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Ruth Iliffe Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Leicestershire, England Transcription Millicent Pearson Mother-In-Law Widow Female 66 1835 - Clifton, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
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16 Mar 2015 22:47 |
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First name(s) GEORGE Last name ILIFFE Birth year 1865 Birth parish HINCKLEY Birth town HINCKLEY Birth county LEICESTERSHIRE Birth country ENGLAND Service number 1193 Rank - Regiment Oxfordshire Light Infantry - 43rd & 52nd Light Infantry Document Type Attestation Attestation year 1883 Attestation Day 17 Attestation Month 8 Attestation age years 18 Attestation age months 9 Attestation Corps Oxfordshire Light Infantry Attestation service number 1193 Discharge Corps Oxfordshire Light Infantry Series WO97 chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913 Box 3127 Box Record Number 77 Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
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16 Mar 2015 22:27 |
First name(s) Arthur Last name Iliffe Relationship Prisoner Marital status Single Gender Male Age 24 Birth year 1877 Occupation Carpenter's & General Labourer Birth town Hinckley Birth town as transcribed HINCKLEY Birth county Leicestershire Birth county as transcribed LEICESTERSHIRE Birth place England Parish Leicester City - Country England County Leicestershire Municipal ward De Moutfort
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16 Mar 2015 22:24 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 37 Oxford St Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation W H Wells Head Married Male 34 1877 Leicestershire Leicester Green Grocer Transcription Sarah Wells Wife Married Female 33 1878 Leicester Leicestershire - Transcription Sidney Wells Son - Male 11 1900 Leicester Leicestershire School Transcription Stanley Wells Son - Male 3 1908 Leicester Leicestershire - Transcription
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16 Mar 2015 22:19 |
I'm puzzled.........how could Sarah Iliffe's brother have the surname Wilson?
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16 Mar 2015 22:11 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Clarendon Street, St Mary, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edmund Iliffe Head - Male 29 1842 - Leicestershire, England Transcription Sarah Iliffe Wife - Female 27 1844 - Leicestershire, England Transcription George Iliffe Son - Male 6 1865 - Leicestershire, England Transcription Emma Iliffe Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Leicestershire, England Transcription Mary Ann Iliffe Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Leicestershire, England Transcription Edmund Iliffe Son - Male 0 1871 - Leicestershire, England Transcription Ann Sanders Boarder - Female 13 1858 - Not Known Transcription
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription St George Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edward Iliffe Head Married Male 48 1843 Framework Knitter Leicester, Leicestershire, England Transcription Sarah Iliffe Wife Married Female 46 1845 - Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Mary A Iliffe Daughter Single Female 21 1870 Hosiery Mender Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Edmund Iliffe Son Single Male 20 1871 Shoe Finisher Leicester, Leicestershire, England Transcription Arthur Iliffe Son Single Male 14 1877 Shoe Finisher Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Sarah Iliffe Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Nellie Iliffe Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Lizzie Iliffe Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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16 Mar 2015 22:05 |
Thanks for the feedback........let's see what can be found.
But, as with all info added on here by helpers, anything posted should be verified by the purchase of certs, if that is feasible for you.
Clear your mind of thoughts about Edmund Cleveland............for the time being at least.
He isn't the direct line...he moved quite early in his life to Nottinghamshire
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16 Mar 2015 18:23 |
Sarah Wells. Shopkeeper, Greengrocer is correct., married to William Wells. They were definitely my husbands grandparents and had a shop trading as S.Wells. My husband's father was Stanley Wells, b approx 1908, his elder brother was Sydney Wells, shown above.
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16 Mar 2015 18:17 |
William & Sarah ILIFFE were my husbands paternal grandparents. I think a lot of my original information came from people who contacted me years ago through either the original Friends Reunited or Genes Connected sites saying they thought they could be related and I printed off their information. What we do know from my husbands older sister is the Iliffe's had either a scrapyard, metal yard or breakers yard in Hinckley. She (now in her 80's) seems to remember an Uncle 'Tug' Wilson (Sarah's brother, obviously a nickname) who she thinks was killed/murdered?? Isadly, it haven't been able to find out anything about this. There seems to be a lot of Iliffe's in the Hinckley area.
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13 Mar 2015 22:02 |
First name(s) EDMUND CLEVELAND Last name ILIFF Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1844 EDMUND CLEVELAND ILIFF married one of these people MARY LANE, MARY ANN VASON, District NOTTINGHAM District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 15 Page 745
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription New Market Row, Bulwell, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edmund Iliffe Head Married Male 31 1820 Glove Maker Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Mary Iliffe Wife Married Female 25 1826 Glove Stitcher Normanton, Leicestershire, England Transcription Betsey Iliffe Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription Joseph Iliffe Lodger Unmarried Male 16 1835 Glove Maker Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Reuben Meads Lodger Unmarried Male 22 1829 Glove Maker Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Newmarket Road, Bulwell, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edmund C Iliffe Head Widower Male 73 1818 Stocking Hawker Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription George A Oliver Grandson Married Male 23 1868 Coal Miner Dudley, Worcestershire, England Transcription Mary E Oliver Granddaughter Married Female 21 1870 - Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription Edmund T Oliver Great Grandson - Male 0 1891 - Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England
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13 Mar 2015 15:35 |
A lot of research is needed.
Name: Edmund Cleveland Iliff Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Nov 1819 Christening Place: SAINT MARY,HINCKLEY,LEICESTER,ENGLAND Father's Name: William Iliff Mother's Name: Latitia
You need to start from what you are 100% certain of...............and work backwards.....checking carefully every step of the way
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13 Mar 2015 13:57 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription St George Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edward Iliffe Head Married Male 48 1843 Framework Knitter Leicester, Leicestershire, England Transcription Sarah Iliffe Wife Married Female 46 1845 - Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Mary A Iliffe Daughter Single Female 21 1870 Hosiery Mender Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Edmund Iliffe Son Single Male 20 1871 Shoe Finisher Leicester, Leicestershire, England Transcription Arthur Iliffe Son Single Male 14 1877 Shoe Finisher Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Sarah Iliffe Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Nellie Iliffe Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Transcription Lizzie Iliffe Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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13 Mar 2015 13:56 |
As far as can be seen from census records, Edmund C Iliffe does not appear to have produced a daughter named Sarah
Did you get the name from the marriage cert?
What was the man's occupation?
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13 Mar 2015 13:49 |
Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) Grewcock Sarah Hinckley 7a 91 Iliffe Edward Hinckley 7a 91
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