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Hi am looking for any information on a Emma Harman born abt 1891 married joseph mcguinness born 1888 in april 1912 mother to joseph mcguinness born april 1914 would like to know where she came from and who her parents are I did find her on a 1911 census working as a servent and that's all any extra information on joseph mcguinness 1914 would be also welcome thanx

?? Your Emma - the only one on the 1911 born 1891
1911 census shows she was born in Walker, Northumberland (part of Newcastle on Tyne)

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18 Ivy Road Gosforth Newcastle on Tyne, Gosforth, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
George Waugh Head Married Male 47 1864 Roxborough Hawick Resident Brewers Agent
Margaret Waugh Wife Married Female 38 1873 Northumberland Bebside -
George Waugh Son - Male 12 1899 Northumberland Gosforth -
Margaret Waugh Daughter - Female 9 1902 Northumberland Gosforth -
Emma Harman Servant Single Female 20 1891 Northumberland Walker Domestic-Servant

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Josephus
Last name Mcguinness
Name note -
Marriage year 1912
Marriage date 09 Apr 1912
Marriage place St. Patrick, Sunderland, Durham, England
Father's first name(s) Josephi
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Mariae Annae
Mother's last name Sweeney
Spouse's first name(s) Emma
Spouse's last name Harman
Spouse's father's first name(s) -
Spouse's father's last name -
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Residence Sunderland, Durham, England
Place Sunderland
County Durham
Country England

Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Would fit with the 1911

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Edward Street, South Shields, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Walter Harman Head Married Male 41 1860 Dock Labourer Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Harman Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Castle Eden, Durham, England
Decima Harman Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Emma Harman Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Walker, Northumberland, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Eliza Harman Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Felling, Durham, England

Births - was Joseph not the only child? All with mmn Harman

MCGUINNESS JOSEPH Q2 1914 South Shields, Durham, 10A 2041

MCGUINNESS FLORENCE Q4 1915 Shields, Durham, 10A 1506

MCGUINNESS JOHN J Q2 1922 South Shields, Durham 10A 176

MCGUINNESS MICHAEL 1924 Q4 Shields, Durham 10A 1580

MCGUINNESS CORNELIUS 1927 Q1 South Shields, Durham 10A 1511

MCGUINNESS EMMA 1929 Q4 South Shields, Durham 10A 1256

yes does seem to fit more will have a look and see if I can find earlier census records might have to look later with fresh eyes thanx though

You say "does seem to fit more" - Is the Emma above on the 1911 census I posted the Emma Harman you found and said in your opening post was a servant?

Tynemouth RD covers Walker

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Births Jun 1891 (>99%)
Harman Emma Tynemouth 10b 262

1911 I think that is the correct one now. I don't know how many children they had I only found 1 for now. also to find them births what database did you use

Either Eliza has changed her place of birth or Walter married 2 Eliza's?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chapel Street, Longbenton, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Walter Herman Head Married Male 31 1860 Coal Miner Gloucester
Eliza Herman Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Wigan, Lancashire, England
Rebecca Herman Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Cardiff, Wales
Decina Herman Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Cardiff, Wales
Emma Herman Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Walker, Northumberland, England
Ada ? Visitor - Female 11 1880 - Durham, England

I guess anything is possible will have a good look at them

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23, Sinope Street, Barton St Mary, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Harman Head Married Male 29 1832 ... Porter Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Charlotte Harman Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Birlingham, Worcestershire, England
William S Harman Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
... Harman Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Walter Harman Son - Male 2 1859 - Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

I don't know if that is a match am starting to look through all the information you have given me which has been really helpful found a lot more stuff thanx

I found then initially on Find My Past a subscription site but

All births can be found on the free to use site http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Use for bmd's Sep Qtr 1837 to approx 1970 at present. It's an ongoing project destined to go to 1983 eventually.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hampden Place, St Michael, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Harman Head - Male 39 1832 - Gloucestershire, England Porter
Charlotte Harman Wife - Female 37 1834 - Gloucestershire, England
Decima Harman Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Gloucestershire, England <<<<<<<<
Emma Harman Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Gloucestershire, England
Edward Harman Son - Male 7 1864 - Gloucestershire, England
Mary K Harman lDaughter - Female 3 1868 - Gloucestershire, England
Laura A Harman Daughter - Female 1 1870

<<<<<<< ? Walter named a daughter for his sister

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?? Walter - Pupil at eastgate Street Blue Coat Hospital School age 11 b (1860)

Registration district Gloucester
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2615
Folio 57
Page 8

hi
found this for the marriage has fathers name for emma never heard that name before

Emma Harman
mentioned in the record of Josephum Mcguinness and Emma Harman
Name: Josephum Mcguinness
Spouse's Name: Emma Harman
Event Date: 09 Apr 1912
Event Place: St. Aloysius, Hebburn (Near Morpeth), Northumberland, England
Father's Name: Joseph Mcguinness
Spouse's Father's Name: Gualteri Harman

Gualteri would be (pidgin) Latin for Walter.

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hi
thanks

hi
found 1891 cesus for joseph mcguinness aged 3 the parents are the same names as marriage cert says he was born in durham hebburn his father was born in south shields mother born in tunbridge wells kent both aged 27 years other children

william j aged 4
joseph aged 3
catherine aged 2
matilda 7 months
father was a chemical labourer

hope this helps

hi
1901 census same place two more children
mary ann aged 6
charles aged 4
all born south shields