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1 Feb 2015 09:06 |
"Who's Who in Staffordshire" 1934
BETSON, William James (Rev.), J.P. Clerk in Holy Orders. The Vicarage, Alton, Stoke-on-Trent.
Born 1872 at Bourne, Lincs. Son of the late James Betson. Educated at Lutterworth Grammar School and Schola Cancellarii, Lincoln.
Married 1903, Ella Fleetwood, daughter of the late T. P. Edwards, M.D.
Member of Cheadle Rural District Council and Chairman since 1928 ; Member of Leek and Cheadle Guardians Committee ; Member of North West Joint Electricity Authority since 1931.
Vicar of Alton and Bradley-le-Moors ; In charge of large Munition District (St. Luke’s), Barrow-in-Furness, during the Great War. Recreations - Tennis, Golf, Amateur Mechanics and Music.
Heir - James Patrick Francis Betson. Born 1915.
http://www.thepotteries.org/people/betson_wilm.htm
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Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 (Find My Past)
BETSON JAMES PATRICK FRANCIS 1906 1932 Passenger lists Port of Spain (Trinidad), West Indies (Master Mariner)
Last address in UK as, The Vicarage, Alton, Staffordshire (address same as on above article, Birth on it, perhaps a mistake)
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Deaths 1946 Betson Ella Fleetwood 70 Douglas 250 2862 1949 Betson William James 77 Douglas
Marriage Year Surname Name Parish/Town Where Married Page Entry Register Notes 1903 Betson William James Onchan Onchan
http://www.manxbmd.com/
1911 (Find My Past) William James Betson Head Married Male 38 1873 Bourne Lincolnshire Clerk In Holy Orders Ella Fleetwood Betson Wife Married Female 35 1876 Castletown Isle of Man James Patrick Francis Betson Son - Male 5 1906 Derbyshire Fernilee Mary Jocelyne Betson Daughter - Female 3 1908 Derbyshire Fernilee Gertrude Mary Betson Sister Single Female 42 1869 Lincolnshire Bourne Organist And Teacher Of Music Alice Robotham Servant Single Female 23 1888 Derbyshire Derby General Servant Domestic Address 90 Appleton Gate Newark Nottinghamshire Parish Newark upon Trent County Nottinghamshire Census reference RG14 PN20743 RG78 PN1237 RD432 SD3 ED12 SN6
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Feb 2015 08:44 |
They lived in greenwich for a time
NAME: Doris Betson YEAR: 1937 COUNTY OR BOROUGH: Greenwich WARD OR DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Greenwich STREET ADDRESS: 3 Morden road With James Patrick Francis and others
1938 at the same address with the same people as in 1939
NAME: Doris Evelyn Betson YEAR: 1939 COUNTY OR BOROUGH: Greenwich WARD OR DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Greenwich
Address 20 Kidbrooke Grove
With James Patrick frances and several other people
The was the cable laying firm in Greenwich so maybe he worked for them
I come from that area and remember the firm but can't remember its name It may have been British Ropes. but think they were at Charlton Or Telegraph and Cables co ,they did have a fleet of cable laying ships as we had a lodger whose boy friend served on one of them and was away for weeks at a time as it laid cable under the seas
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31 Jan 2015 23:56 |
Did his wife's obituary not say where she died. That may give you a clue. If you don't have the full notice, it may be worth visiting a main library that holds past editions of the Times to check it out.
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Sorrilsain
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31 Jan 2015 23:42 |
That's great - so that confirms that he and his wife did spend time in the UK - and that is where they were living when there daughter was born.
From what we can remember Granny went off to see him when he was ill before he died - we know we were still at school so that would be - late 60's / 70's - but we can't remember any of the details about where she went etc. Unfortunately, there isn't any family member still alive who we can ask.
We have hundreds of photos of James, as a young man on boats and in exotic locations - yet we don't know what happened to him or where his final resting place is.
I will just keep searching..... and Thank You all for your input. Cheers Sorrilsain
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31 Jan 2015 23:39 |
And 1972
J P F Betson ADDRESS: OBE. Copse Corner Cott,Moor Com,Lane End... EXCHANGE: H Wycombe DIRECTORY TITLE: Oxford Feb PUBLICATION YEAR: 1972 DIRECTORY COUNTY: Oxford PAGE NUMBER: 35
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31 Jan 2015 23:37 |
Capt J P F Betson ADDRESS: OBE, Copse Corner Cott,Moor Com... EXCHANGE: Lane End DIRECTORY TITLE: Oxford Feb PUBLICATION YEAR: 1971 DIRECTORY COUNTY: Oxford PAGE NUMBER: 32
So still in Oxfordshire in 1971 if above 'phone book entry is correct?
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rootgatherer
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31 Jan 2015 23:23 |
James Patrick Betson YEAR: 1936 COUNTRY: England COUNTY: Surrey PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Mitcham PLACE OF ABODE: 36 Crichton Road REFERENCE NUMBER: CC802/53/6
Also there Doris Betson
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31 Jan 2015 23:19 |
I guess this is a list of GPO appointments - it includes Sorting Clerks, Telephonists, Postmen etc
The London Gazette 9 February 1937
Under Clause 3 of the General Regulations
Post Office: Navigating Officer on a Cable Ship
James Patrick Francis Betson
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GlitterBaby
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31 Jan 2015 23:11 |
National Archives - cost of £3.30
Reference: BT 395/1/6940 Description: Medal listing of Betson, J P F Discharge number:1072437 Date of Birth: 08 June 1905 Date: [1946-2002] Held by: The National Archives, Kew
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Sorrilsain
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31 Jan 2015 23:06 |
Thanks for the Merchant service info...
I guess I'm going to have to extend my search world wide - for his marriage and death details. Any pointers on where to start?
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greyghost
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31 Jan 2015 23:05 |
OBE Supplement to the London Gazette 1 January 1957
To be Ordinary Officers of the Civil Division of the said Most Excellent Order -
Captain James Patrick Francis Betson, Commander, HMTS Monarch, General Post Office
HMTS Monarch was a Cable laying ship, in GPO service
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Travelman
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31 Jan 2015 23:04 |
No death showing on FMP and nothing showing in UK probate records 1960-1996 I'm afraid.
Nothing on Find a Grave either.
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Sorrilsain
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31 Jan 2015 23:00 |
Yes, Merchant Navy
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greyghost
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31 Jan 2015 22:59 |
Do you have these?
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Certificate of Competency as Second Mate on a Foreign-going Steamship in the Merchant Service NAME: James Patrick Francis Betson ESTIMATED AGE: 20 BIRTH DATE: 1905 BIRTH PLACE: Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire ISSUE DATE: 15 Jan 1925 ISSUE PORT: Liverpool CERTIFICATE NUMBER: 0018649
---------------------------------------------------------- and as First Mate of a foreign-going Steamship in the merchant Service - granted 4 May 1926
NAME: James Patrick Francis Betson ESTIMATED AGE: 21 BIRTH DATE: 1905 BIRTH PLACE: Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire ISSUE DATE: 20 May 1926 CERTIFICATE NUMBER: 0018649
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GlitterBaby
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31 Jan 2015 22:59 |
Navy captain rather than an Army Captain ?
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Sorrilsain
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31 Jan 2015 22:54 |
My cousin has the cuttings about his OBE... so, can't tell you the dates.
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Sorrilsain
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31 Jan 2015 22:52 |
Hi
In the obituary he is referred to as: Capt JPF Betson OBE
He had one daughter - Valerie F Betson born 1937 Surrey Died1959 Bucks
I will have another look at the Channel Island records - thanks for the link.
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GlitterBaby
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31 Jan 2015 22:48 |
Curious as to when he got the OBE ?
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GlitterBaby
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31 Jan 2015 22:39 |
Channel Islands records - this would give you a starting point
http://www.priaulxlibrary.co.uk/
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Jacqueline
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31 Jan 2015 22:38 |
How was he referred to in the obituary?
Did the couple have children?
They didn't marry in England or Wales
His wife didn't die in England or Wales, either
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