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BeverleyW
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16 Jan 2015 19:54 |
Yes thank you, I have Thomas's parents and have got back a very long way with his mother's side (the 1600's), though I am stuck on his grandparents - William Ball and Mary unknown, place of birth also unknown - not much chance of finding them!
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Jan 2015 14:32 |
Have you got this?
Name: Thomas Ball Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1835 Marriage Date: 31 Aug 1856 Marriage Age: 21 Marriage Place: Aston, St Peter and St Paul, Warwickshire, England Spouse: Margaret Rowley Spouse Gender: Female Spouse Marriage Age: 20 Father: John Ball WEAVER Spouse's Father: George Rowley WATERMAN Reference Number: DRO 41 Archive Roll: M89 Cancel Witnesses Joseph and Eliza Lapworth.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Jan 2015 14:27 |
O dear my mistake yes it was married 54 years. Sorry.
So you knew who his father was then?
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BeverleyW
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16 Jan 2015 13:15 |
Thank you for taking the trouble to look those records up, Mel.
I do have the info on Thomas sr. who is my direct ancestor. I think you made a mistake copying the info - Thomas and Margaret are married 54 years; 16 children, 8 living. The only census that proved troublesome was the 1861 where wife Margaret is head of household - Thomas was spending a 'holiday' in Winson Green Prison!
Thomas jr.'s wife died in 1907 which explains why he and Sidney were with his parents.
Thanks again Beverley
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Jan 2015 11:51 |
1911 Married 16 years****8 children all living.
Name: Thomas Ball Age in 1911: 75 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Coventry, Warks Civil Parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 9 Kirby Rd Winson Green Birmingham Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Formaly Baker*****
Registration district: Birmingham Registration District Number: 384 Sub-registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 18034 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Ball 75 Margaret Ball 74 Thomas Ball 32 SON widowed GUN SMITH Small arms Gunmaker. Sidney Thomas Ball **Grandson
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Jan 2015 11:28 |
1901
William Ball Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Sarah Ann Ball Birth Place: Birmingham Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2825 Folio: 148 Page Number: 16 Household schedule number: 95 Household Members: Name Age William Ball 44 Sarah Ann Ball 46 Augusta Ball 19 Mabel Ball 17 Elsie Ball 13 Florence Ball 3 Joseph Henry Askins 19
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Jan 2015 11:27 |
1871
William Ball Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Ball Gender: Male Where born: Birmm Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 3089 Folio: 33 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Ball 35****Baker Married William Ball 15** Chandelier Maker Henry I Ball 12 John Ball 10 Clara Ball 6 Emily Parker 15 Servant
1881
Name: William Ball Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Sarah Ann Ball Gender: Male Where born: Birmm Civil Parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Sheepcote St No 45 Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Baker Registration district: Birmingham Sub registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2965 Folio: 22 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age William Ball 23 Sarah Ann Ball 26 Eveline Ball 9 months
1891 same address and Sarah' father is with them down as father to the head of the house George Pardo a Baker and a widowed.
e: William Ball Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah A Ball Father's name: George Pardoe Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2373 Folio: 29 Page Number: 53 Household Members: Name Age William Ball 34 Sarah A Ball 36 Agueda Ball 9** should read Augusta Mabel Ball 7 Elsie Ball 3 Selina Ball 10/12 Louise Ball 15 George Pardoe 65
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Jan 2015 10:47 |
Don't know if you have this 1911 ceensus. It says they had 7 children 4 living and three had died. William is a Baker and shop keeper employer and Sarah Ann assist in the buiness as does Elsie their daughter. They have two numbers on their address so it seems like it is a double bakers shop.
Name: William Ball Age in 1911: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 71&72 Freeth Street Ladywood B'ham Marital Status: Married Occupation: Baker & Shop Keeper Registration district: Birmingham Registration District Number: 384 Sub-registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Piece: 18021 Household Members: Name Age William Ball 54 Sarah Ann Ball 56 Elsie Ball 23 Florence Ball 13 Arthur Wiltshire 26 Visitor******
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Gee
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16 Jan 2015 08:47 |
Wit to the marriage were: George & Emma Matilda Pardo
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BeverleyW
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15 Jan 2015 22:08 |
Thanks Gins.
There seem to be two William - Sarah Ball couples in Birmingham and the one with father Thomas is indeed my man.
Beverley
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Gee
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15 Jan 2015 21:56 |
Hi
Name:William Ball <<Baker
Gender:Male
Birth Year:abt 1857
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1879
Marriage Age:22
Marriage Place:Birmingham, St Mark, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Sarah Ann Pardo
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age:24
Father: Thomas Ball <<Baker
Spouse's Father: George Pardo <<Stone mason
Reference Number: DRO 33
Archive Roll: 614
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BeverleyW
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15 Jan 2015 21:46 |
Good evening
Could someone with access to the Birmingham marriages please look up the record for the marriage of William Ball and Sarah Ann Pardo in the 4th quarter of 1879. I would like to know William's occupation plus his father's name and occupation. Many thanks
Beverley
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