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looking for any info on ellen jane bates born 1888 married alec george bain in 1909 in greenwich thank you

Is this the marriage?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ace George Bain
Name: Ace George Bain
[Alec George Bain]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 22
Spouse: Ellen Jane Bate
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Nov 1909
Parish: Christ Church, Greenwich, East
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James William Bain
Spouse Father: Alfred Thomas Bate
Register Type: Parish Register

His name is Alec George on original, an arc lamp trimmer, his father a painter.
She signs her last name Bate not Bates, her father deceased brass moulder.
Address for both 22 Northumberland Rd.
Witnesses Walter William Collins and Mabel Bate.

What info are you looking for please

yes thats the marriage any thing her parents occupation children

1891 census shows her as Ellen Bate at the District Royal Hospital School, Greenwich,daughter of Alfred Bate, laundryman, and Harriet Bate, washerwoman.

thank you so much

1911 England Census about Alec George Bain
Name: Alec George Bain
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Greenwich, Kent
Civil Parish: Low Leyton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 49 Westdown Road, Leyton
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Arc Lamp Trimmer
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: South Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 9609
Household Members:
Name Age
Alec George Bain 22
Ellen Jane Bain 22
Mabel Bain 8/12

NAME: Ellen Jane Bain
BIRTH DATE: 9 Jul 1888
DATE OF REGISTRATION: Dec 1974
AGE AT DEATH: 86
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Waltham Forest
INFERRED COUNTY: Greater London
VOLUME: 15
PAGE: 0940

2 other Bain children with mother's maiden name Bate:

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Bain Alec A W Bate W.Ham 4a 66

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Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Bain Alan M Bate W. Ham 4a 13

Deaths Mar 1894 (>99%)
BATE Alfred Thomas 33 Greenwich 1d 710

so have i got it right elen parents were alfred bate and harriet bate husband alec george bain parents james bain sorry for being so thick

Marriages Dec 1883
BATE Alfred Thomas Lewisham 1d 1554
Rayner Harriett Lewisham 1d 1554

As they were married about 5 years before Ellen was born maybe this was another child for them
Births Mar 1886
BATE John Watson Greenwich 1d 1124

Deaths Jun 1887
Bate John Watson Greenwich 1d 579

trying to find james bain wife and parents

School Record - living at 1 Marlborough St:


Name:
Alex George Bain

Age:
7

Birth Date:
10 Jun 1888

School:
Calvert Road School

Borough:
Greenwich

Admission Date:
3 Feb 1896

Parent:
James Bain

Notes:
Calvert Road School (0460) opened in 1879. Renamed Annandale School in 1951

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(worth a look on above, has Ellen Jane Bain)

Chris :)


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Alfred Thomas
Last name Bate
Marriage year 1883
Marriage date 25 Dec 1883
Marriage place St. Mark'S, Lewisham, Kent, England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Bate
Spouse's first name(s) Harriet
Spouse's last name Rayner
Spouse's father's fist name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Rayner
Residence Lewisham, Kent, England
Place Lewisham
County Kent

thank you

Not finding Alec as that on the census (apart from 1911). A tree on Ancestry has him as this George:


Name:George Bain
Age:2
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1889
Relation:Son
Father's Name:James Bain
Mother's name:Frances Bain
Gender:Male
Where born:Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish:Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch
Registration district:Greenwich
Sub registration district:Greenwich East

James Bain 34
Frances Bain 33
James W Bain 10
Frank R Bain 8
Albert Bain 6
George Bain 2
Alice Bain 3 Months

This is James and Frances's marriage:

Name:James Bain
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1855
Age:24
Spouse:Frances Elizabeth Pond
Spouse Age:22
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:26 Oct 1879
Parish:Holy Trinity, Blackheath Hill
Borough:Greenwich
Father Name:Thomas Bain
Spouse Father:Robert Pond

This is Alec's birth reg - the cert will confirm mother's name:

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
BAIN Alec George Greenwich 1d 1050

thank you

Alec's baptism:


Name:Alee George Bain
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:28 Jan 1891
Father's Name:James Bain - labourer
Mother's name:Frances Bain
Parish or Poor Law Union:
Greenwich, East Christ Church
Borough:Greenwich

Living at 30 Caltock Street; sister Alice Maud baptised same day