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Stuart

Stuart Report 4 Jan 2015 14:34

Cant find this young lady after the 1871 scot census living as a domestic at delnies school nairn, she was born margaret judge mcarthur in Edinburgh July 1857 but used surname judge in census, I have searched scot people ancestry etc census and deaths marriages as well no luck any ideas many regards

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Jan 2015 14:39

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1348063

Mary

Mary Report 4 Jan 2015 14:41

Can you tell me her parents names please Stuart.

Ooops only just noticed other thread.

Stuart

Stuart Report 4 Jan 2015 15:14

Yes only mothers name Christian mcarthur I cannot seem to find her after 1871 which was found out from a previous posting regarding her mother searched and searched no luck after this census

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 4 Jan 2015 15:20

Previous thread has now been deleted. Great!!! All info now gone

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Jan 2015 15:28

Oh Stuart why on earth did you delete the other thread please? It may have helped others researching the same family. I just hope that by deleting the thread you haven't discourage people from helping.

Stuart

Stuart Report 4 Jan 2015 15:33

Yes I deleted last thread so not to have two similar the only info regarding margaret judge was her birth date July 1857 in edinburgh, and her mother who was Christian mcarthur, and of course she was at delnies school in 1871 census, she only really came to my knowledge as a result of the last thread which was regarding her mother very sorry if I have offended but thought two similar threads were not allowed if first one effectively finished many regards

Stuart

Stuart Report 4 Jan 2015 15:42

Yes correct thankyou

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Jan 2015 21:07

Posting the 1861 as well for info. Have you followed up all the family to see if she's with any of them?


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Newlands of Delnies, Nairn, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Main (Cogs) Head Married Male 53 1808 Fisherman Nairn, Nairnshire, Scotland
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Elspat Main Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Nairn, Nairnshire, Scotland
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Christina Main Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 Domestic Servant Nairn, Nairnshire, Scotland
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Alexander McArthur Head Married Male 59 1802 Road Contractor Cromdale, Invernessshire, Scotland
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Elspet McArthur Wife Married Female 59 1802 - Croy
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Jane McArthur Daughter Unmarried Female 34 1827 Domestic Servant Forres, Morayshire, Scotland
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Alexander MacHattie Grand Son - Male 5 1856 - Nairn, Nairnshire, Scotland
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Margaret Judge Grand Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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Margaret McKillican Servant - Female 11 1850 Herd Rafford, Morayshire, Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2015 22:37

Scotland's People shows 7 marriages and 2 Roman Catholic marriages for a Margaret Judge between 1871 and 1881. None for Margaret Judge McArthur but 55 for Margaret McArthur. As you obviously use SP you could check them out.

Meantimes this is on Family search as one possibility
Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
Margaret Judge
mentioned in the record of Michael O'Donnell and Margaret Judge
Name: Michael O'Donnell
Spouse's Name: Margaret Judge
Event Date: 12 Apr 1874
Event Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11685-3 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 6035516

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jan 2015 10:45

I checked that marriage out for the previous post, and felt it wasn't her.

Looking it all up again. I think this is that couple - ie - not Stuart's Margaret. Their eldest child was born 1875:


1881 Scotland Census 1880s
Name: Margaret O Donnel
Spouse: Michael O Donnel
Birth: abt 1851 - Airdrie, Lanarksh
Residence: Canongate, Midlothian

1891 Scotland Census 1890s
Name: Margaret O'Donnell
Spouse: Michael O'Donnell
Birth: abt 1851 - Airdrie, Lanarkshire -
Residence: Edinburgh South Leith, Midlothian

1901 Scotland Census 1900s (Decade)
Name: Margaret Odonnell
Spouse: Michael Odonnell
Birth: abt 1851 - Airdrie, Lanarkshire
Residence: Edinburgh St Paul, Midlothian

Stuart

Stuart Report 12 Jan 2015 13:08

just saw on someones tree Margaret Buchan married to james Waugh is that her perhaps marriage in Nairn I think

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Jan 2015 19:53

Have I missed something please? Where did the name Buchan come from please? When did Margaret Buchan marry James Waugh?

Stuart

Stuart Report 12 Jan 2015 20:29

Yes sorry her mother married a robert buchan marriage of margaret buchan to james waugh 21,11,1884 north leith I was sort of thinking she took on her step fathers surname so that's why we couldn't find her I saw on genes some one had Christine mcarthur her mum in their tree so contacted them but they only know her as margaret buchan I think I'm right what do you think regards stuart

Stuart

Stuart Report 12 Jan 2015 20:32

I also think the thread I deleted had info on her mother's marriage to Robert which might have given us a chance of realising the surname change that's if I'm right hmm think I may have messed up big time deleting that thread

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2015 20:55

Name: Chirstena Mcarthur
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1860
Marriage Place: Saint Nicholas,Aberdeen,Aberdeen,Scotland
Spouse: Robert Buchan
FHL Film Number: 6035516
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and a tree on ancestry has this for her death.



Death
1876 29 May Age: 47
42 North Street, North Leith
Carcinoma of the Uterus


So this is possibly them.


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tradespark, Nairn, Moray, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Buchan Head Married Male 32 1839 Salmon Fisher Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Chirstenia Buchan Wife Married Female 36 1835 - Nairn, Nairnshire, Scotland
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Isabella Buchan Daughter - Female 10 1861 Scholar Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Robert Buchan Son - Male 4 1867 - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Betsey Buchan Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Nairn, Nairnshire, Scotland

Stuart

Stuart Report 12 Jan 2015 21:00

Yes I think they had a daughter betsy according to this in nairn 1871 I wondered as whether she returned to nairn and took her daugher margaret judge mcarthur to Edinburgh, this is where Christian mcarthur died in about 1876 edinburgh I mean I have Christian mcarthur death cert somewhere will have a look

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2015 21:01

And they seem to be in Leith in 1881.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wilkie Place, 26, North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Buchan Wife Married Female 41 1840 Fireman's Wife Old Machar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jessie Buchan Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
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Betsy Buchan Daughter - Female 10 1871 Scholar -
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Robert Buchan Son - Male 14 1867 Scholar City, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wilkie Place, North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Buchan Head Married Male 52 1839 Cranman Egnine Shop Chapel of Garioch, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Margaret Buchan Wife Married Female 51 1840 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jessie Buchan Daughter - Female 13 1878 Scholar Midlothian, Scotland

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2015 21:07

Possible for James and Margaret Waugh. I think you need to have a look on scotlandspeople for the MC.


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Murdoch Terrace 1st FT, St Cuthbert Edinburgh, St George, Midlothian, Scotland

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James Waugh Head Married Male 40 1851 Life Assurance Agent Kirkpatrick, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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Margaret Waugh Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Midlothian, Scotland
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William Waugh Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Midlothian, Scotland



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wardlaw Place, 8, Edinburgh, St George, Midlothian, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Waugh Head Married Male 50 1851 (Industrial) Assurance Agent Kirkpatrick, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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Margaret Waugh Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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William Waugh Son Single Male 15 1886 Biscuit Factory (Carrier) Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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James Waugh Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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Thomas G Waugh Son - Male 6 1895 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Stuart

Stuart Report 12 Jan 2015 21:11

Christina mcarthur or buchan died 1876 north leith margaret married north leith 1884 to james waugh I downloaded that marriage it states margarets parents names were robert buchan and Christine buchan nee mcarthur I reckon that has to be her