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name change for the winn surname???

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Nigel

Nigel Report 3 Jan 2015 16:04

I am looking in to my family name winn.my dad george william winn ( my dad was named after his uncle )has a brother james howey winn who both are still alive.my grandfather James winn who died 1983 I think,chester le street.he was born waldrigde county durham,I'm sure his dad was thomas winn who was married to barbara howey ??? I think thomas winn dad was also callled thomas and his dad james. My grandfather james has one brother still alive called lesley winn and he mention a book of the winn family is around to find and he is sure way in the past the winn name was a shorter version of the original spelling.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Jan 2015 16:11

Lesley is the female spelling .yours would be Leslie

Have you found their births

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Jan 2015 16:20

Chester le street comes under Durham Northern so this one would be right

NAME: James Winn
BIRTH DATE: 6 Sep 1909
DATE OF REGISTRATION: Sep 1985
AGE AT DEATH: 76
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Durham Northern
INFERRED COUNTY: Durham
VOLUME: 1
PAGE: 1087

Births Dec 1909
Winn James Chester le S. 10a 579



Or if he did pass in 1983 there is this one
NAME: James Jefferson Winn
BIRTH DATE: Sep 1913
DATE OF REGISTRATION: Oct 1984
AGE AT DEATH: 71
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Durham Western
INFERRED COUNTY: Durham
VOLUME: 1
PAGE: 1518

Births Dec 1913
Winn James J Jefferson Auckland 10a 521

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 3 Jan 2015 16:21

This is James Howey Winn in the 1911 census:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation

William Martin Winn Head Married Male 42 1869 Edmondsley Durham Coal Miner Hewer
Margaret Jane Winn Wife Married Female 36 1875 Chester Le Street Durham
William Edward Winn Son Single Male 17 1894 Waldridge Fell Durham Coal Miner Putter Below Ground
Ann Hawey Winn Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Waldridge Fell Durham
James Hawey Winn Son Single Male 10 1901 Waldridge Fell Durham School<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<(the image says Howey)

Address: Low Row Waldridge Chester Le Street, Waldridge, Durham

Parents married 19 years

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 3 Jan 2015 16:26

Same family in the 1901 census:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William M Winn Head Married Male 32 1869 Coal Miner Edmondsley, Durham, England
Margaret J Winn Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Chester Le Street, Durham, England
William E Winn Son - Male 7 1894 - Waldridge, Durham, England
Ann H Winn Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Waldridge, Durham, England
James H Winn Son - Male 0 1901 - Waldridge, Durham, England

Address: Low Row, Waldridge, Chester Le Street, Durham

Kath. x

Gritty

Gritty Report 3 Jan 2015 16:27

For ref: is this your Grandfather?

1911
Thomas Winn Head Married Male 36 1875 Durham Waldridge Coal Miner Hewer
Barbara Ann Winn Wife Married Female 28 1883 Durham South Shield -
Irne Winn Nan? Daughter Single Female 5 1906 Durham Bamish
George William Winn Son Single Male 4 1907 Durham Waldridge -
Thomas Winn Son Single Male 3 1908 Durham Waldridge
James Winn Son Single Male 1 1910 Durham Waldridge

Address High Row Waldridge Chester Le- Street
Parish Waldridge
County Durham
Country England
Registration district Chester Le Street
Registration district number 554
Subdistrict Chester Le Street
Subdistrict number 1
Enumeration district 23
Piece number 30107
Schedule number 23
Census reference RG14PN30107 RG78PN1738 RD554 SD1 ED23 SN23
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales

married 5 years (crossed out) 5 children born, 4 still living. Also has a Jane ? Winn, daughter, under 1 month- crossed out (maybe the child that died?)

EDIT: perhaps not the above, based on this possible marriage:

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
DUNSTONE William Henry Chester le S. 10a 948
HENNIGAN Ann Chester le S. 10a 948
Rae Barbara Chester le S. 10a 948
WINN Thomas Chester le S. 10a 948

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Jan 2015 16:32

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Row Waldridge Chester Le- Street, Waldridge, Durham, England

Thomas Winn Head Married Male 36 1875 Durham Waldridge Coal Miner Hewer

Barbara Ann Winn Wife Married Female 28 1883 Durham South Shield -

Irne Winn N N Daughter Single Female 5 1906 Durham Bamish -

George William Winn Son Single Male 4 1907 Durham Waldridge -

Thomas Winn Son Single Male 3 1908 Durham Waldridge -

James Winn Son Single Male 1 1910 Durham Waldridge - Transcription

Married 5 years 5 children born 4 still, living

Child that died is listed but crossed through Jane Alice Winn aged under 1 month

This looks like the child that died
Births Mar 1911
WINN Jane A Chester-le-S. 10a 612
Deaths Mar 1911 (
Winn Jane A 0 Chester-le-S. 10a 326

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Jan 2015 16:40

Looks like Leslie Winn mmn Rae

Births Jun 1927
Winn Leslie Rae Chester- le-S. 10 a 976


Edit another brother
Births Mar 1914
Winn John R Rae Chester-le-S. 10a 1278

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Jan 2015 16:41

hi Just for ref of helpers in case they 'overlap' info on the other thread ( it's only indirectly connected so not duplicating) which just has mention of the Winn marriage to Dowding ( 1932)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1348161

Gritty

Gritty Report 3 Jan 2015 16:45

Good spot Shirley- so Nigel may have names mixed up and the Barbara Rae/ Thomas Winn marriage 1905 could be correct.

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Jan 2015 17:35

This might be of interest if not already known

http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/s019.htm

scroll down to 'In Memoriam'

mentions John Rae Winn,

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 4 Jan 2015 14:52

Hello Nigel and welcome to the Community boards.




(I'll let Nigel know how to find his replies) :-)

Rambling

Rambling Report 4 Jan 2015 14:54

Don't worry Cynthia he knows how to get back :-) as he has replied on the other thread, and I have advised him that there are posts here also.

Nigel

Nigel Report 4 Jan 2015 17:17

Hi all and thank you for all the help.I will ask my dad to rattle his brain and find out who was all of his dads brothers.

Nigel

Nigel Report 4 Jan 2015 17:42

James winn siblings was thomas winn married florence bird.george winn married florence husband.leslie winn (still alive)married veronica duncan.john rae winn married cladis brown.iren winn died 21 year old.

Nigel

Nigel Report 4 Jan 2015 20:46

A bit of history is what I'm told is my grandfather james and his brother john start the browns hairdresser off,john rae winn was married to cladis brown the very first barber for browns.

Rambling

Rambling Report 4 Jan 2015 21:10

Marriages Sep 1936 (>99%)

Brown Gladys Winn Chester-le-S. 10a 1399

WINN John R Brown Chester-Le-S.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 6 Jan 2015 13:54

Thanks for the info Rose. :-D