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31 Dec 2014 04:04 |
I want to find descendants as well as ancestors. thanks Greg Bowles. :-)
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Astra
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31 Dec 2014 06:04 |
Hi Greg and welcome to the Community Boards.
On his birth registration his mother's maiden name is given as Downer. In 1908 there is this marriage
Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
BOWLES Archibald Hastings 2b 58 DOWNER Florence Hastings 2b 58
so his father was also called Archibald.
This is the 1911 census showing his parents and siblings
Name: Archibald Bowles
Age in 1911: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Hastings, Sussex Civil Parish: Hastings County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: 12 Duke St St Leonards On Sea Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer House Painter Household Members: Archibald Bowles 26 Florence Bowles 22 William Bowles 3 Caleb Bowles 1
All of the family were born in Hastings
There were more children born after 1911
Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Bowles Florence M M Downer Hastings 2b 59
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
Bowles Archibald Downer Hastings 2b 39
Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Bowles Reginald F Downer Hastings 2b 42
Births Dec 1927 (>99%)
Bowles Leonard P Downer Hastings 2b 26
at the age of 15 young Archie travelled to Australia. He is noted as a Window Cleaner. His address is given as 6 Market Passage St. Leonards on Sea.
Name: Archie Bowles
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Birth Date: abt 1915
Departure Date: 14 Mar 1930
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Brisbane, Australia
Ship Name: Bendigo
Shipping line: P and O Branch Service
Official Number: 145603
Master: F N Wyatt
If you edit your heading to include Australia other researchers may be able to help more with what happened to him.
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31 Dec 2014 09:12 |
1901
Archibald Bowles AGE: 16 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1885 RELATION TO HEAD: Son GENDER: Male FATHER: William Bowles MOTHER: Mary Bowles BIRTH PLACE: Hastings, Sussex, England CIVIL PARISH: St Mary Magdalene ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Peter TOWN: St Leonards COUNTY/ISLAND: Sussex COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS:
OCCUPATION:
CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:
EDUCATION:
EMPLOYMENT STATUS:
View image REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Mary Magdalen ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 05 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 869 FOLIO: 118 PAGE NUMBER: 15 HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 94 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE William Bowles 43, Carpenter Mary Bowles 43, b. Bedford Florence Mary Bowles 24 William Bowles 20 Horace Bowles 18 Archibald Bowles 16 Daisy Bowles 14 Frank Bowles 11 Clement C Bowles 9 Arthur Bowles 8 Bertie Bowles 4 Minnie E Bowles 10/12
All except Mum Mary born Hastings
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31 Dec 2014 09:18 |
1891
William Bowles AGE: 33 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1858 RELATION: Head SPOUSE'S NAME: Mary Bowles MOTHER'S NAME: Ester Lawford GENDER: Male WHERE BORN: Hastings, Sussex, England CIVIL PARISH: St Mary Magdalene ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Peter TOWN: Hastings COUNTY/ISLAND: Sussex COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS:
OCCUPATION:
CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:
EDUCATION:
EMPLOYMENT STATUS:
View image REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Mary in the Castle ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 19 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 764 FOLIO: 101 PAGE NUMBER: 44 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE William Bowles 33 Mary Bowles 33 Mary Florence Bowles 14 Fred George Bowles 12 William Bowles 10 Horace Bowles 8 Archibald Bowles 6 Daisy Bowles 4 Frank Bowles 1 Ester Lawford. 70, Mother, b. Herts
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31 Dec 2014 09:26 |
Esther Lawford is actually his wife's mother.
William Bowles REGISTRATION YEAR: 1876 REGISTRATION QUARTER: Jul-Aug-Sep REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings INFERRED COUNTY: Sussex VOLUME: 2b PAGE: 71
RECORDS ON PAGE: NAME William Bowles Josephine Clark Mary Lawford Charles Packett
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31 Dec 2014 09:34 |
1891
Florence Downer AGE: 2 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1889 RELATION: Daughter FATHER'S NAME: Moses Downer MOTHER'S NAME: Caroline Downer GENDER: Female WHERE BORN: Hastings, Sussex, England CIVIL PARISH: St Leonard ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Matthew TOWN: Hastings COUNTY/ISLAND: Sussex COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS:
OCCUPATION:
CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:
EDUCATION:
EMPLOYMENT STATUS:
View image REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Mary in the Castle ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 31 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 766 FOLIO: 116 PAGE NUMBER: 22 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Moses Downer 47 Caroline Downer 41 Emily Downer 15 Alice Downer 14 Charles Downer 11 John Downer 9 Florence Downer 2 Arthur Downer 4 months
In 1901 Moses is a widower
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31 Dec 2014 09:44 |
Archie Bowles DEPARTURE PLACE: London, United Kingdom ARRIVAL DATE: 13 Apr 1930 ARRIVAL PLACE: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia VESSEL: Bendigo
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Jacqueline
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31 Dec 2014 10:09 |
You could try contacting the other person who has him in her GR tree
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AnnCardiff
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31 Dec 2014 10:31 |
Hi there Greg - to find this person in other trees here on GR, use the "Search" facility top right hand corner of this page
I'll send a message to Greg advising there is info on here for him
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31 Dec 2014 13:58 |
Considering the time you posted, are you in the Southern Hemisphere?
The Australian National Archive holds a copy of his WW2 service record. Depending on your relationship to him, you may be able to request a copy.
The brief outlines gives BOWLES ARCHIBALD : Service Number - QX9645 : Date of birth - 10 May 1914 : Place of birth - HASTING ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - KELVIN GROVE QLD : Next of Kin - BOWLES ARCHIBALD
As his nok was Archibald, presumably that is his father and suggests that within the data-base time frame 1940-1947 he was unmarried, or possibly divorced.
Link to search the collection http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
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31 Dec 2014 14:19 |
Could this be him in 1954? Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: Archibald Bowles Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1954 State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Sherwood
Andrew St, Rockles. Occupation Cleaner. At what might be the same address is Violet May Bowles, home duties.
Still there in 1958 – 1968 By 1977 it has been assigned a street number, so 58 Archer St. He is a Lift Driver. At the same address, along with Violet is Gregory William Bowles, a radio mechanic. Name: Archibald Bowles Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1977 State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Wishart
All 3 of them are still there in 1980, which is the last on-line ER entry on Ancestry.
Each state has a Ask a Librarian service. If you believe that this could be your Archibald, contact them and ask if they can search the missing ER years which will give you an idea when Archibald married, and when Gregory first appeared on the rolls. Assuming an age of eligibility of 21, you can get a rough estimate for when he was born. Ask them to trace the address forward as well.
Note - Years illustrated are 1954, 1958, 1963, 1968, 1977 and 1980
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Greg
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1 Jan 2015 10:19 |
Thanks, I am his son but have never met any of his relatives as he lost touch with them when he came to Australia at 15, :-)
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AnnCardiff
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1 Jan 2015 11:46 |
pointless sharing trees Greg - we have no connection :-)
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1 Jan 2015 12:02 |
Oop! Sorry about that Greg!
So really you are looking for any surviving Aunts, Uncles and their descendants. Obviously if you have siblings whom you have lost contact with, we need a few more details.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Jan 2015 12:42 |
1851
Name: Moses Downer Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's Name: Moses Downer Mother's name: Mary Downer Gender: Male Where born: Hythe, Kent, England Civil Parish: Wadhurst Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Ticehurst Sub-registration district: Ticehurst ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 44 Piece: 1639 Folio: 352 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Moses Downer 34 born Sussex occupation Excurvator Mary Downer 32 Mary A Downer 11 George Downer 9 Moses Downer 7***********************Kent Aron Downer 5 Kent Daniel Downer 3 Kent Stephen Downer 1 Sussex
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Jan 2015 12:44 |
Poss marriage
Name: Moses Downer Registration Year: 1875 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Hastings Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 35 Records on Page: Name Moses Downer*************** Emily Kemp Caroline Knight****************** Charles Morley
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Jan 2015 12:59 |
Name: Moses Downer Registration Year: 1839 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Cuckfield Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 7 Page: 473 Records on Page: Name Moses Downer Mary Jeondeon Langford
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2 Jan 2015 07:10 |
Reginald F BOWLES, brother of Archibald jnr, married in 1953 in Hastings to Winifred ALEXANDER (nee 'SIVER').
I'd say this is her previous marriage, to George E ALEXANDER:
Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sivyer Winifred / Alexander / Hastings / 2b 39
Another brother, Leonard P, married in 1953 in Hastings to Ruby D LATTER.
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rootgatherer
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2 Jan 2015 10:08 |
A tree on Ancestry has this but you may need to check it out
Clement Christopher Bowles Birth 22 Jan 1892 in Hastings, East Sussex, England Death Mar 1971 in Ware, Hertfordshire, England
Marriage 1917 to Hilda May Godfrey
Clement Christopher Bowles BIRTH DATE: 22 Jan 1891 DATE OF REGISTRATION: Mar 1971 AGE AT DEATH: 80 REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Ware INFERRED COUNTY: Hertfordshire VOLUME: 4b PAGE: 838
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