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Archibald Bowles born 1914 Sussex

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Jan 2015 10:08

A tree on Ancestry has this but you may need to check it out


Clement Christopher Bowles
Birth 22 Jan 1892 in Hastings, East Sussex, England
Death Mar 1971 in Ware, Hertfordshire, England

Marriage 1917 to Hilda May Godfrey


Clement Christopher Bowles
BIRTH DATE: 22 Jan 1891
DATE OF REGISTRATION: Mar 1971
AGE AT DEATH: 80
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Ware
INFERRED COUNTY: Hertfordshire
VOLUME: 4b
PAGE: 838

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 2 Jan 2015 07:10

Reginald F BOWLES, brother of Archibald jnr, married in 1953 in Hastings to Winifred ALEXANDER (nee 'SIVER').

I'd say this is her previous marriage, to George E ALEXANDER:

Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sivyer Winifred / Alexander / Hastings / 2b 39


Another brother, Leonard P, married in 1953 in Hastings to Ruby D LATTER.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Jan 2015 12:59

Name: Moses Downer
Registration Year: 1839
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Cuckfield
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 7
Page: 473
Records on Page:
Name
Moses Downer
Mary Jeondeon Langford

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Jan 2015 12:44

Poss marriage

Name: Moses Downer
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hastings
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 35
Records on Page:
Name
Moses Downer***************
Emily Kemp
Caroline Knight******************
Charles Morley

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Jan 2015 12:42

1851

Name: Moses Downer
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Moses Downer
Mother's name: Mary Downer
Gender: Male
Where born: Hythe, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Wadhurst
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Ticehurst
Sub-registration district: Ticehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 1639
Folio: 352
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Moses Downer 34 born Sussex occupation Excurvator
Mary Downer 32
Mary A Downer 11
George Downer 9
Moses Downer 7***********************Kent
Aron Downer 5 Kent
Daniel Downer 3 Kent
Stephen Downer 1 Sussex

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Jan 2015 12:02

Oop! Sorry about that Greg!

So really you are looking for any surviving Aunts, Uncles and their descendants. Obviously if you have siblings whom you have lost contact with, we need a few more details.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Jan 2015 11:46

pointless sharing trees Greg - we have no connection :-)

Greg

Greg Report 1 Jan 2015 10:19

Thanks, I am his son but have never met any of his relatives as he lost touch with them when he came to Australia at 15, :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 31 Dec 2014 14:19

Could this be him in 1954?
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Archibald Bowles
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1954
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Sherwood


Andrew St, Rockles. Occupation Cleaner.
At what might be the same address is Violet May Bowles, home duties.

Still there in 1958 – 1968
By 1977 it has been assigned a street number, so 58 Archer St. He is a Lift Driver.
At the same address, along with Violet is Gregory William Bowles, a radio mechanic.
Name: Archibald Bowles
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1977
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Wishart

All 3 of them are still there in 1980, which is the last on-line ER entry on Ancestry.

Each state has a Ask a Librarian service. If you believe that this could be your Archibald, contact them and ask if they can search the missing ER years which will give you an idea when Archibald married, and when Gregory first appeared on the rolls. Assuming an age of eligibility of 21, you can get a rough estimate for when he was born.
Ask them to trace the address forward as well.

Note - Years illustrated are 1954, 1958, 1963, 1968, 1977 and 1980

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 31 Dec 2014 13:58

Considering the time you posted, are you in the Southern Hemisphere?

The Australian National Archive holds a copy of his WW2 service record. Depending on your relationship to him, you may be able to request a copy.

The brief outlines gives
BOWLES ARCHIBALD : Service Number - QX9645 : Date of birth - 10 May 1914 : Place of birth - HASTING ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - KELVIN GROVE QLD : Next of Kin - BOWLES ARCHIBALD

As his nok was Archibald, presumably that is his father and suggests that within the data-base time frame 1940-1947 he was unmarried, or possibly divorced.

Link to search the collection
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Dec 2014 10:31

Hi there Greg - to find this person in other trees here on GR, use the "Search" facility top right hand corner of this page

I'll send a message to Greg advising there is info on here for him

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 31 Dec 2014 10:09

You could try contacting the other person who has him in her GR tree

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2014 09:44

Archie Bowles
DEPARTURE PLACE: London, United Kingdom
ARRIVAL DATE: 13 Apr 1930
ARRIVAL PLACE: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
VESSEL: Bendigo

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2014 09:34

1891

Florence Downer
AGE: 2
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1889
RELATION: Daughter
FATHER'S NAME: Moses Downer
MOTHER'S NAME: Caroline Downer
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Hastings, Sussex, England
CIVIL PARISH: St Leonard
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Matthew
TOWN: Hastings
COUNTY/ISLAND: Sussex
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings
SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Mary in the Castle
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 31
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 766
FOLIO: 116
PAGE NUMBER: 22
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Moses Downer 47
Caroline Downer 41
Emily Downer 15
Alice Downer 14
Charles Downer 11
John Downer 9
Florence Downer 2
Arthur Downer 4 months

In 1901 Moses is a widower

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2014 09:26

Esther Lawford is actually his wife's mother.

William Bowles
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1876
REGISTRATION QUARTER: Jul-Aug-Sep
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings
INFERRED COUNTY: Sussex
VOLUME: 2b
PAGE: 71

RECORDS ON PAGE:
NAME
William Bowles
Josephine Clark
Mary Lawford
Charles Packett

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2014 09:18

1891

William Bowles
AGE: 33
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1858
RELATION: Head
SPOUSE'S NAME: Mary Bowles
MOTHER'S NAME: Ester Lawford
GENDER: Male
WHERE BORN: Hastings, Sussex, England
CIVIL PARISH: St Mary Magdalene
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Peter
TOWN: Hastings
COUNTY/ISLAND: Sussex
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings
SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Mary in the Castle
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 19
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 764
FOLIO: 101
PAGE NUMBER: 44
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
William Bowles 33
Mary Bowles 33
Mary Florence Bowles 14
Fred George Bowles 12
William Bowles 10
Horace Bowles 8
Archibald Bowles 6
Daisy Bowles 4
Frank Bowles 1
Ester Lawford. 70, Mother, b. Herts

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Dec 2014 09:12

1901

Archibald Bowles
AGE: 16
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1885
RELATION TO HEAD: Son
GENDER: Male
FATHER: William Bowles
MOTHER: Mary Bowles
BIRTH PLACE: Hastings, Sussex, England
CIVIL PARISH: St Mary Magdalene
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Peter
TOWN: St Leonards
COUNTY/ISLAND: Sussex
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

View image
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hastings
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Mary Magdalen
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 05
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 869
FOLIO: 118
PAGE NUMBER: 15
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 94
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
William Bowles 43, Carpenter
Mary Bowles 43, b. Bedford
Florence Mary Bowles 24
William Bowles 20
Horace Bowles 18
Archibald Bowles 16
Daisy Bowles 14
Frank Bowles 11
Clement C Bowles 9
Arthur Bowles 8
Bertie Bowles 4
Minnie E Bowles 10/12


All except Mum Mary born Hastings

Astra

Astra Report 31 Dec 2014 06:04

Hi Greg and welcome to the Community Boards.

On his birth registration his mother's maiden name is given as Downer.
In 1908 there is this marriage


Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)

BOWLES Archibald Hastings 2b 58
DOWNER Florence Hastings 2b 58

so his father was also called Archibald.

This is the 1911 census showing his parents and siblings


Name:
Archibald Bowles

Age in 1911:
26
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1885
Relation to Head:
Head
Gender:
Male
Birth Place:
Hastings, Sussex
Civil Parish:
Hastings
County/Island:
Sussex
Country:
England
Street address:
12 Duke St St Leonards On Sea
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Labourer House Painter
Household Members:
Archibald Bowles 26
Florence Bowles 22
William Bowles 3
Caleb Bowles 1

All of the family were born in Hastings

There were more children born after 1911

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)

Bowles Florence M M Downer Hastings 2b 59


Births Jun 1914 (>99%)

Bowles Archibald Downer Hastings 2b 39


Births Dec 1916 (>99%)

Bowles Reginald F Downer Hastings 2b 42


Births Dec 1927 (>99%)

Bowles Leonard P Downer Hastings 2b 26

at the age of 15 young Archie travelled to Australia. He is noted as a Window Cleaner. His address is given as 6 Market Passage St. Leonards on Sea.


Name:
Archie Bowles

Gender:
Male

Age:
15

Birth Date:
abt 1915

Departure Date:
14 Mar 1930

Port of Departure:
London, England

Destination Port:
Brisbane, Australia

Ship Name:
Bendigo

Shipping line:
P and O Branch Service

Official Number:
145603

Master:
F N Wyatt

If you edit your heading to include Australia other researchers may be able to help more with what happened to him.






Greg

Greg Report 31 Dec 2014 04:04

I want to find descendants as well as ancestors. thanks Greg Bowles. :-)