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13 Dec 2014 09:52 |
Hi. I'm trying to find my great great grandfather who was born in 1838 in Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland who moved to Valance Lodge, Forest and Frith, Teesdale in Durham where he met and married Frances Garget in 1859 when he was 21 years of age and she was 19. They had 4 children, John born1867, Hannah born1873, Peter Emmerson born 1877 and Frances born 1881. I have managed to find out this information when he came to live in Teesdale but I haven't been able to trace any information about his parents and family members in Scotland.
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13 Dec 2014 10:03 |
Hi Amy and welcome to the boards.
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Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about John Elliot Name:John Elliot Gender:Male Birth Date:11 Oct 1838 Birth Place: Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland Baptism Place: Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland Father: Alexander Elliot Mother: Mary Tait FHL Film Number:1067935 Reference ID:2:18BK4Q6 A copy of the marriage cert would confirm who his Father was.
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13 Dec 2014 10:12 |
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1851 Scotland Census about John Elliot Name:John Elliot Age:12 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1839 Relationship:Son Father: Alexr Elliot Mother: Mary Elliot Gender:Male Where born:Hawick, roxburgh Civil Parish:Hawick :Town:Hawick County:Roxburghshire Address:High Street
Household Members:
Alexr Elliot 41 Mary Elliot 37 Rachael Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 William Elliot 12 David Elliot 8 Elizabeth Elliot 6 Margaret Elliot 4 Walter Elliot 1 James Little 20 Adam Little 21 Wm Elliot 23
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PricklyHolly
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13 Dec 2014 10:57 |
You might find this site useful......
www.Scotlandspeople.gov.uk
It is not a subscription site........you will need to purchase credits.
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Maddie
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13 Dec 2014 11:08 |
1861 Scotland Census about John Elliot Name: John Elliot Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Alexr Elliot Mother's name: Mary Elliot Gender: Male Where born: Hawick, Roxburghshire Registration Number: 789 Registration district: Hawick Civil Parish: Hawick Town: Hawick County: Roxburghshire Address: 23 High St Occupation: Wool Sorter ED: 17 Household schedule number: 37 LINE: 22 Roll: CSSCT1861_140 Household Members: Name Age Alexr Elliot 53 Mary Elliot 48 Rachel Elliot 24 John Elliot 22 William Elliot 22 David Elliot 18 Margaret Elliot 13 Walter Elliot 11 Mary Elliot 7 Agnes Elliot 3
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13 Dec 2014 11:09 |
1861 Scotland Census
Name:Rachel Elliot
Age:24
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837
Relationship:Daughter
Father's Name: Alexr Elliot
Mother's name: Mary Elliot
Gender:Female
Where born:Hawick, Roxburghshire
Registration Number:789
Registration district:Hawick
Civil Parish:Hawick
Town:Hawick
County:Roxburghshire
Address:23 High St
Occupation:Woollen Seamen
ED:17
Household schedule number:37
LINE:21
Roll:CSSCT1861_140
Household Members:
Alexr Elliot 53 Mary Elliot 48 Rachel Elliot 24 John Elliot 22 William Elliot 22 David Elliot 18 Margaret Elliot 13 Walter Elliot 11 Mary Elliot 7 Agnes Elliot 3
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13 Dec 2014 11:10 |
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1861 England Census about John Elleiot Name: John Elleiot Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Frances Elleiot Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Holwick Ecclesiastical parish: Laith Kirk Town: Holwick County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Teesdale Sub-registration district: Middleton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 20 Piece: 3721 Folio: 69 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age John Elleiot 24 Lead Miner Frances Elleiot 20 George Elleiot 1
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13 Dec 2014 11:10 |
1871 Scotland Census
Name:Rachael Elliot
Age:34
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837
Relationship:Servant
Gender:Female
Where born:Hawick, Roxburghshire
Registration Number:810
Registration district:Wilton
Civil Parish:Wilton
County:Roxburghshire
Address:18 Wilton Crescent
Occupation:Servant (domestic)
ED:2 Household schedule number:125 LINE:2 Roll:CSSCT1871_181
Household Members:
Margaret Turnbull 53 Rachael Elliot 34
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13 Dec 2014 11:14 |
1881 Scotland Census
Name:Rachel Miles
Age:42
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1839
Relationship:Wife
Spouse's name :John B Miles
Gender:Female
Where born: Hawick, Roxburghshire
Registration Number:810
Registration district:Wilton
Civil Parish:Wilton
County:Roxburghshire
Address:11 Damside
ED:4 Household schedule number:114 LINE:20
Roll:cssct1881_320
Household Members:
John B Miles 42 Rachel Miles 42 David Miles 17 William G Miles 15 Helen C Miles 13 Robert Miles 11 John G Miles 9 James B Miles 7 Janet B Miles 3 Rachel G Miles 1
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13 Dec 2014 11:20 |
son John ????
1881 Scotland Census about John Elliot Name: John Elliot Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Apprentice Gender: Male Where born: Hawick, Roxburghshire Registration Number: 794 Registration district: Kirktown Civil Parish: Cavers County: Roxburghshire Address: Deanbrae Cottage Occupation: (Apprentice) Joiner ED: 3 Household schedule number: 37 LINE: 10 Roll: cssct1881_319 Household Members: Name Age William Inglis 67 Mary Oliver 46 Elizabeth Inglis 31 Andrew Inglis 6 Elizabeth Jane Inglis 2 John Elliot 15 Janet Carfrae 40
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13 Dec 2014 11:25 |
marriage Alexander Elliot mentioned in the record of Alexander Elliot and Mary Tait Name: Alexander Elliot Spouse's Name: Mary Tait Event Date: 08 Sep 1833 Event Place: Cavers,Roxburgh,Scotland Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11785-4 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 1067933, 0102285
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13 Dec 2014 11:35 |
Same family as the 1861 I posted above:
1871 England Census about John Elliott Name: John Elliott Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Francis Elliott Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Forest and Frith County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Teesdale Sub-registration district: Middleton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 28 Piece: 4947 Folio: 90 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age John Elliott 34 Shepherd Francis Elliott 30 George Elliott 11 Anne Elliott 8 Margaret Elliott 6 John Elliott 4 Mary Jane Elliott 3 Elizabeth Elliott 10 Months
at Vallance Lodge !
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PricklyHolly
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13 Dec 2014 11:50 |
Note that the John Elliot who is with parents Alexander and Mary on the 1851 census, is also with his parents on the 1861 census.
There is also the John Elliot who is with wife Frances on the 1861 census........so possibly not the same John Elliot?
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13 Dec 2014 11:52 |
1881 England Census about John Elliott Name: John Elliott Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Frances Elliott Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Forest and Frith County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Valance Lodge Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Shepherd ** Registration district: Teesdale Sub registration district: Middleton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4936 Folio: 91 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Elliott 43 Frances Elliott 41 John Elliott 14 Mary Jane Elliott 13 Elizabeth Elliott 10 Hannah Elliott 8 Janet Elliott 6 Peter Emerson Elliott 4 Frances Elliott Dea x
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13 Dec 2014 11:56 |
1891 England Census about John Elliot Name:John Elliot Age:53 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1838 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Frances Elliot Gender:Male Where born:Scotland Civil Parish:Forest and Frith Ecclesiastical parish:Forest and Frith County/Island:Durham Country:England Household Members:
John Elliot 53 Frances Elliot 51 Hannah Elliot 18 Peter Emmaersor Elliot 14 Frances Elliot 10 George Raine 4
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Dea
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13 Dec 2014 12:01 |
They are 'alive and kicking' on 1911 census and are stated to have had 10 children - 8 of whom are still alive at that time so a lot more than the original 4 you quoted.
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13 Dec 2014 12:12 |
there are these all about the same time
John Elliot
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 6 September 1838 christening: 7 October 1838 , CASTLETON, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND residence: 1838 Castleton, Roxburgh, Scotland father: Walter Elliot mother: Janet Dinwoodie John Elliot
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 11 October 1838 , Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland christening: , HAWICK, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND residence: 1838 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland father: Alexander Elliot mother: Mary Tait John Elliot
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 10 August 1838 christening: 6 October 1838 , CASTLETON, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND residence: 1838 Castleton, Roxburgh, Scotland father: John Elliot mother: Fanny Wilson John Little Elliot
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 16 September 1839 , Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland christening: , HAWICK, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND residence: 1839 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland father: Thomas Elliot mother: Margaret Hume
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PricklyHolly
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13 Dec 2014 15:08 |
As Amy is a new poster, I will send her a PM to let her know she had received replies.
Prickles. :-)
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Amyhenry
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13 Dec 2014 16:40 |
Hi. Thank you so much for all the information you have sent me regarding my great great grandfather. I have sent for his marriage certificate and hopefully this will give me his father's name. I haven't been researching my family history for very long and I have found it pretty straightforward until I tried to find John Elliot due to him being born in Scotland.
Once again many thanks for your help.
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Dea
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13 Dec 2014 16:58 |
Do come back onto this thread when you receive the cert and let us know the details please.
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