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Jan
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7 Dec 2014 07:44 |
My husband Is the great grandson of William Henry Toms, Born Wellingborough. Looking for any further information.
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LondonBelle
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7 Dec 2014 08:04 |
Would that be Wellingborough, Northamptonshire? If so there is a birth for a William Henry Toms on 8 Dec 1856. Parents Daniel Toms occupation Currier Journeyman and Charlotte Toms formerly Goodman
Do you know who William married?
What kind of info are you looking for?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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7 Dec 2014 08:39 |
How have you got back to him ?
Some names on the ancestry backwards would help
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LondonBelle
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7 Dec 2014 08:40 |
To ensure that we are lookin at the right family it is best to work back from info that you know is correct. Can you provide the info that got you back to William Henry Toms? Thanks
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Chris Ho :)
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7 Dec 2014 08:49 |
Daniel Toms born 22nd September 1831 had eleven children - 9 male and two females. My husband, Ian George Daniel Toms, is from the line from the 4th child, William Henry born 1856. Children of Daniel Toms and Charlotte Goodman are as follows:
Mary Ann John Goodman Charles William Henry Mary Ann (?) Joshua George Alfred Frederick Daniel
Septimus Francis Octavius Arthur
(from old query on google search)
http://genforum.genealogy.com/toms/messages/431.html
Chris :)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(above link has below)
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Wellingborough Church All Hallows RegisterNumber 1510 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 22 Sep 1831 Forename Daniel Sex M FatherForename John MotherForename Mary FatherSurname TOMS Abode Broad Green FatherOccupation Labourer
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Wellingborough Church All Hallows RegisterNumber 1010 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 15 Feb 1852 Forename Mary Ann Sex F FatherForename Daniel MotherForename Charlotte FatherSurname TOMS Abode Knight St FatherOccupation Currier
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Wellingborough Church All Hallows RegisterNumber 894 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 25 Dec 1863 Forename Alfred Sex M FatherForename Daniel MotherForename Charlotte FatherSurname TOMS Abode Northampton FatherOccupation Currier
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Wellingborough Church All Hallows RegisterNumber 1098 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 25 Dec 1864 Forename Frederic Daniel Sex M FatherForename Daniel MotherForename Charlotte FatherSurname TOMS MotherSurname Abode Northampton FatherOccupation Currier
Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- Toms Daniel Wellingboro Goodman Charlotte Wellingbro 15 625
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patchem
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7 Dec 2014 08:49 |
This thread is linked, and as Daniel 1831, is in Jan's tree, as her husband's great great grandfather, then that would be the family.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1347378
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LondonBelle
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7 Dec 2014 10:08 |
PM from Jan
Bertram Trevor Toms father of my husband David Bertram Henry Toms grandfather William Henry Toms great grandfather Daniel Toms great great grandfather
Am looking to find parents and siblings of Daniel. Also would like to find generations further back than this.
Jan is new to the Boards and I have explained how to Reply on her Thread for all helpers to see.
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:09 |
Possible death: William H Toms Birth Date: abt 1857 Date of Registration: Jun 1934 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Northampton Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 53
Northampton Mercury - Friday 06 July 1934 MR W. H. TOMS Mr William Henry Toms of 19 Stimpson Ave. Northampton, retired shoe manufacturer who died on may 15th last, has left estate of the gross value of #26,596 16s. 6d., with a net personalty #26,511 4s. 9d.
Probate of the will has been granted to his widow, Mrs Ellen Naylor Toms of the same place, and his son, William Alfred Toms of 8 Allen Road, Northampton, shoe manufacturer.
The testator left his household effects not otherwise disposed of- and #500 to his wife 'and the residue of the property in trust for her for life and then for his children in equal shares.
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:12 |
1841:
John Toms Male 35 1806 Labourer Northamptonshire, England Mary Toms Female 25 1816 Northamptonshire, England Daniel Toms Male 10 1831 Northamptonshire, England Charles Toms Male 7 1834 Northamptonshire, England Joshua Toms Male 5 1836 Northamptonshire, England Mary Ann Toms Female 2 1839 Northamptonshire, England
Street Sheep Street Parish or township Wellingborough County Northamptonshire Country England Registration district Wellingborough Archive reference HO107 Piece number 801 Book number 7 Folio number 10 Page number 13 Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:16 |
1851:
Thomas Goodman Head Married Male 53 1798 Labourer Northamptonshire, Sarah Goodman Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Northamptonshire, England John Goodman Son Son Male 15 1836 Shoe Maker - Hanh Goodman Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 - Northamptonshire, England Daniel Toms Lodger Married Male 20 1831 Carrier Wilby, Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Toms Lodger Married Female 22 1829 - Northamptonshire, England Mary Ann Toms Lodger - Female 0 1851
Street Knight Street Town Wellingborough Parish Wellingborough County Northamptonshire Registration district Wellingborough Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1743 Folio 542 Page 26 Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:19 |
Marriage for Daniel:
Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%) Blackwell Rebecca Wellingbro 15 625 Goodman Charlotte Wellingbro 15 625 <<<<<<< Guilliam Thomas Wellingboro' 15 625 Rutherford John Wellingbro 15 625 Toms Daniel Wellingboro 15 625 <<<<<<<<< Wright Lucy Wellingbro 15 625
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:22 |
1851 (for Daniel's parents) John Toms Head Married Male 45 1806 Farming Man Irchester, Northamptonshire, Mary Toms Wife Married Female 38 1813 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, Joshua Toms Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Farm Boy Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, Mary Ann Toms Daughter Unm Female 11 1840 Scholar Wellingborough, Northamptonshire John Toms Son Unmarried Male 4 1847 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
House name Burton Lodge Street Burton Latimer Parish Burton Latimer County Northamptonshire Registration district Kettering Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1744 Folio 28 Page 48
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:26 |
Daniel's mother possibly a Goodman too
Marriage (family search)
Name: John Toms Spouse's Name: Mary Goodman Event Date: 29 Oct 1830 Event Place: Wellingborough, Northampton, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04456-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 2000020 , Reference ID: Item 4 p 220
same marriage (FMP) First name(s) JOHN Last name TOMS Marriage year 1830 Marriage day 29 Marriage month Oct Marriage place WELLINGBOROUGH ALL HALLOWS Parish Wellingborough All Hallows Occupation Labourer Marital status B Spouse's first name(s) MARY Spouse's last name GOODMAN Spouse's parish Wellingborough All Hallows Spouse's marital status S Event Type Marriage By Banns or licence Banns County Northamptonshire
Tree on Ancestry gives details of this couple and their younger children emigrating to New Zealand in 1855
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:29 |
Daniel's wife:
Northampton Mercury - Friday 25 January 1907
DEATHS TOMS- at 120 Derby Road, Charlotte, the widow of the late Daniel Toms (suddenly) aged 78 years. Loved by all who knew her.
Daniel: Northampton Mercury - Friday 27 April 1894
DEATHS: TOMS- April 21st, at 35 Burns Street, Daniel Toms, 62.
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Gritty
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7 Dec 2014 10:40 |
Northampton Mercury - Saturday 19 August 1854
"MR HENRY GENT"S Assignment. Notice is hereby given, that by indenture bearing date the sixteenth day of August, 1854, HENRY GENT of Wellingborough, in the county of Northampton, Shoe Manufacturer, hath assigned all his personal estate and effects unto William Henry Cooper of Wellingborough, aforesaid Currier, and Daniel Toms, of Wellingborough, aforesaid Currier, in trust for the benefit of themselves..."
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Jacqueline
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7 Dec 2014 10:44 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1347381
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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7 Dec 2014 11:58 |
I too got a PM the same as Londonbelle .
Said I would copy over but as its already on here and look ups have moved on I will leave.
I too advised to reply on the thread and not to individuals so other helpers can see the info sent
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PricklyHolly
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7 Dec 2014 14:39 |
Hi Jan
To reply on here..........type in the white box at the bottom and click on "Submit"
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LondonBelle
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7 Dec 2014 16:44 |
Hi Jan
There is a picture on Ancestry of Daniel Toms (1831-1894) and a copy of his Marriage Certificate to Charlotte Goodman are these from your Tree?
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LondonBelle
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7 Dec 2014 18:12 |
I've been looking for Daniel in the 1841 census and I've come across this entry
Name: Daniel Jones Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Wellingborough Hundred: Hamfordshoe County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Wellingborough Sub-registration district: Wellingborough Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 801 Book: 7 Folio: 10 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age John Jones 35 Mary Jones 25 Daniel Jones 10 Charles Jones 7 Joshua Jones 5 Mary Ann Jones 2
Although the family have been transcribed as 'Jones' looking at the actual image I think it could be 'Toms'.
Could someone else have a look at the image and tell me what they think?
I have found baptisms for all the children listed above with parents as John & Mary Toms.
Thanks
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