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I have partly knocked down a brick wall with my CURRAN family but hoping sks can help further please.

I have Michael CURRAN b. c1880 who died in 1907 in Western Australia (I have his death notice, wife's 2nd marriage etc). I don't know where he was born but the marriage notice states '2nd son of Patrick & Ellen Curran, of Newcastle NSW'.

I finally found Patrick & Ellen in New South Wales, along with children's names. However, I can't locate their marriage nor children's births - does not appear to be in NSW or Victoria.

Patrick b. County Cavan , Ireland c1845, d. 1921 Hamilton NSW aged 76
Ellen b. Glasgow, Scotland c1847, d. 1920 Hamilton NSW aged 73.
(I have notices and obits from newspapers for both)

Children:
James d. 1898 NSW
Michael d. 1907 WA
John Joseph d. 1938 NSW
Sarah d. 1955 NSW, m. Jno BUTLER 1900 NSW
Ellen (Nellie) d. 1959, m. Geo BRIGDALE 1917 NSW
Barbara d. 1963, m. Edward C LOCKHART 1908 NSW
Mary d. 1956, m. Herbert E DAY 1908 NSW
Agnes d. 1969, m. John A MOONEY 1907 NSW

Not sure of order except I know Sarah was eldest daughter and Michael 2nd eldest son.

Any advice gratefully accepted, thank you!!! :-)

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Back Row, 17, Old Monkland, Old Monkland Middle District, Lanarkshire, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Bridget O'Donnell Head Of House Unmarried Female 40 1831 Housekeeper Ireland Transcription
Margaret O'Donnell Niece - Female 7 1864 - Baillieston, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription
Grace O'Donnell Niece - Female 5 1866 - Baillieston, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription
Martha O'Donnell Niece - Female 3 1868 - Baillieston, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription
Patrick Currans Head Married Male 26 1845 Miner Ireland Transcription
Ellen Currans Wife Married Female 25 1846 House Wife Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Name: Patrick Curran
Spouse's Name: Ellon Campbell
Event Date: 21 Feb 1871
Event Place: Hamilton,Lanark,Scotland

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11647-1 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 6035516

Name: Sarah Curran
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1873
Birthplace: BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Patrick Curran
Mother's Name: Helen Campbell


Name: James Curran
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Nov 1871
Birthplace: BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Patrick Curran
Mother's Name: Helen Campbell

Hi Cherilyn,

I don't have any information, but I did see an article re a mining accident that states Michael (if it's the same one) was 38 when he died- making his dob c1869- earlier than you have.

Geraldton Guardian Friday 23 August 1907

Fatal Accident at Meekatharra
"...The interment took place in the Roman Catholic cemetery, Mr. J. Toohey officiating at the grave. The deceased Michael Curran, aged 38, leaves a widow and one child, and the Italian Giovanni Bertonclli, aged 28, was unmarried..."


Also, I think Edward Lockhart and Barbara Curran married 1903 (not 1908)

A tree on ancestry has the following for this family:-

Parents:-
Patrick Curran
Bridget Curran

Spouse :-

Ellen Campbell 1844 – 1920
Birth 03 Sep 1844 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Death Apr 1920 in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia

Parents :-
Bernard Campbell 1821 – 1883
Barbara Dirkin


Children:-
James Curran 1871 – 1898
Sarah Curran 1873 – 1955

Michael Curran 1875 – (Birth About June 1875 in Lanark, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom)

Ellen Curran 1878 –
Barbarra Curran 1880 – 1963
Agnes Curran 1882 – 1969
Mary Curran 1885 – 1956


Arrival :- 1875 27 Oct
Age: 24
Otago, New Zealand
Assisted immigrants on ship "Auckland" sailed from Clyde 31st July 1875

Wow that is brilliant, thank you Jacqueline, Gritty and Catherine!
:-)

Just found the younger 4 kids births in NZ!

it was getting late when I had this bit of a breakthru last night...NZ did cross my mind funny enough! But I was too tired to follow it up.

ellen's year of birth seems a couple of years too early? But good to have her mn.

looks like Michael was a baby when they came to NZ. 1875 seems a good fit, maybe the newspaper got his age wrong?

Oh the story gets even sadder.

not only had Micheal's wife Nellie lost a baby daughter aged 10 months the year previous, and was left to care for a 2 year old son, she was expecting at the time of the accident in Aug 1907. The baby girl was stillborn in Jan 1908 :-(

On a positive note, she returned to NSW and remarried, and had 2 daughters.

Bernard Campbell's death registration, if he died in Scotland , will name his parents including his mother's maiden surname if the informant knew the details.

1851

Name: Ellen Campbell
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Daughter
Father: Barney Campbell, b. Ireland
Mother: Barbara Campbell b. Glasgow
Gender: Female
Where born: Avondale, Lanark
Parish Number: 647
Civil Parish: Hamilton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Lanarkshire
Address: New House
ED: 5
Page: 8
Household schedule number: 27
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1851_168
Household Members:
Name Age
Barney Campbell 37
Barbara Campbell 33
Mary Campbell 10
Agnes Campbell 8
Ellen Campbell 6
Sarah Campbell 5
Cathrine Campbell 2
John Campbell 1 Mo

1861

Name: Barbara Campbell
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 645
Registration district: Glassford
Civil Parish: Glassford
County: Lanarkshire
Occupation: Tambourer
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 54
LINE: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_114
Household Members:
Name Age
Barbara Campbell 44
Agnes Campbell 17
Ellen Campbell 15
Sarah Campbell 14
Catherine Campbell 12
John Campbell 10

26 September 1907 - Cornishman - Penzance, Cornwall, England

NEWS FROM FOREIGN MINING CAMPS.
West Australia.

This morning Mr. Holman, M.L.A., received a telegram from Meekatharra to the effect that a serious accident had occurred at the Ingliston Extended. Only meagre particulars were available, but it is known that there was a fall of earth at the 100ft level, and that two men were killed. M. Curvan and J. Betonelli.

(saw snippet above)

Chris :)


CURRAN Michael 32 Miner 20-Aug-1907 Ingliston Extended GM

http://d6757.mysite.westnethosting.com.au/Mining%20Deaths%20A%20to%20Dhtml.html

Just to say that the marriage and baptisms I posted were from the free familysearch site.........always worth looking at

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792

(New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973)

(perhaps arrival on above)

Chris :)

New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists

Name: Patrick Curren
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 27 Oct 1875
Event Place: Otago, New Zealand
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Nationality: Lanarkshire
Occupation: Laborer
Departure Port: Clyde
Departure Place: Clyde
Departure Date: 1875
Arrival Port: Otago
Arrival Place: Otago
Digital Folder Number: 004412771 , Image Number: 00008

Travelling with:
Mrs Ellen Curren 28
James Curren 4
Sarah Curren 2
Michael Curren 1 month

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11693-138889-34?cc=1609792

This looks as though it could be the couple in 1871?

1871 Scotland Census about Patrick Currans
Name: Patrick Currans
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ellen Currans
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 652/2
Registration district: Old Monkland Middle District
Civil Parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 17 Back Row
Occupation: Miner
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 17
LINE: 15
Roll: CSSCT1871_148
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Currans 26
Ellen Currans 25 born: Strathaven, lanarksh

As parish is Old Monkland, same as 1871 census and mother's name is Bridget, I thought this may be Patrick in 1861:-

1861 Scotland Census about Patrick Curran
Name: Patrick Curran
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James Curran
Mother's name: Bridget Curran
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 652/2
Registration district: Old Monkland Middle District
Civil Parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 20
Occupation: Ironstone Miner
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 18
LINE: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_118
Household Members:
Name Age
James Curran 44
Bridget Curran 34
Patrick Curran 16
Bridget Curran 14
William Curran 7
Michael Curran 5
Mary Curran 2

....................but father is noted as James and not Patrick as the tree on ancestry states, so maybe not ????

Thanks everyone. Age 32 at the time of the accident fits well with birth 1875.

Newspaper reports back then often got ages and even names incorrect!

I have enough to go on for this family now and don't really need to go any further back (Michael's wife's 2nd husband is the link). I had just been frustrated by the Currans for so long as they seemed quite elusive...until I got that lead with the sblings names and the Hamiton/Newscatle NSW connection...then it all fell in to place. Now with all your help I have a really good picture of his life. Mining, mining and more mining in this lot!

Thank you all very much once more.

PS I think it is highly likely that Patrick's father WAS James - he did name his eldest son James after all. Looks like a good match to me (and we all know how suspect info on Ancestry can be!) :-D