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Teresa
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20 Nov 2014 15:06 |
Hi, need some help please. I have John Wright Rich born 1852 at Tuxford, Notts, in the 1861 census he is living with his grandparents, as follows:. George Rich 53 born Tuxford. Elizabeth Rich wife 52 born Bassingham Lincs. Mary Rich 22 daughter in law, born Gamston. JOHN W RICH 9 Grandson born Tuxford. Anne Rich 4 gr.daughter. ..........Rich 6 months grandson. I cannot find John's parents, surely Mary could't be John's mother as she is only 22 and there is no husband there also it says married not widow. Could some-one look up George and Elizabeth in the 1841 and 1851 census please, hopefully some sons will show up and then I can try and find John's parents. Thank you for helping Teresa :-(
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2014 15:14 |
Your best best is too get his birth cert
Births Jun 1850 Rich John Wright E Retford 15 563
Births Mar 1852 RICH John Wright E. Retford 7b 21
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2014 15:15 |
Looks like the first lad died so his brother was named after him
Deaths Jun 1850 RICH John Wright E Retford 15 349
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Teresa
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20 Nov 2014 15:17 |
just got 2nd message through, about one child died. Thank you
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2014 15:22 |
1841 England Census about George Rich Name: George Rich Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Tuxford Hundred: Bassetlaw (South Clay Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
View image Registration district: East Retford Sub-registration district: Tuxford Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 852 Book: 15 Folio: 16 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age George Rich 35 Elizabeth Rich 30 William Rich 12 George Rich 10 Mary Rich 8 Charles Rich 6 Thomas Rich 1
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 852; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Tuxford; County: Nottinghamshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 16; Page: 24; Line: 22; GSU roll: 438902.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2014 15:27 |
1851 England Census about George Rich Name: George Rich Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizth Rich Gender: Male Where born: Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Tuxford Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Tuxford County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: East Retford Sub-registration district: Gringley ED, institution, or vessel: 11a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Piece: 2121 Folio: 708 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age George Rich 45 Elizth Rich 42 George Rich 19 Thomas Rich 11 Walter Rich 9 Sarah Wright Rich 5 Samuel Rich 2 Robert Bell 21 Saml Bilton 30 John Toul 27 Tom Batman 20
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2121; Folio: 708; Page: 7; GSU roll: 87750-87751.
Note sarah 's second name of Wright
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2014 15:32 |
Seems to be a family second name Name: William Wright Rich Gender: Male Baptism Date: 27 Jan 1828 Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England Death Date: 7 May 1828 Father: George Rich Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2014 15:36 |
Next son baptised William too Name: William Rich Gender: Male Baptism Date: 16 Mar 1829 Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England Father: George Rich Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Nov 2014 15:38 |
Name: Mary Anna Rich Gender: Female Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1833 Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England Father: George Rich Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539
Name: Walter Rich Gender: Male Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1843 Baptism Place: East Markham,Nottingham,England Father: George Rich Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 503792, 504064, 504521
Name: George Rich Gender: Male Baptism Date: 3 Jul 1831 Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England Father: George Rich Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539
Name: Walter Rich Gender: Male Baptism Date: 2 Nov 1836 Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England Father: George Rich Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539
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Teresa
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20 Nov 2014 15:52 |
Thanks very much Shirley :-)
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Nov 2014 15:58 |
Burials 18 Apr 1818 RICH William Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname Burials 07 May 1828 RICH William Wright Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname Burials 14 Nov 1840 RICH Walter Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname Burials 17 Jan 1841 RICH John Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname Burials 24 Jan 1841 RICH Catherine Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname Burials 25 Jan 1841 RICH John Wright Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname Burials 26 Feb 1845 RICH John Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname
(in case they come in anywhere!, from below link)
Chris :)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
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Teresa
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20 Nov 2014 15:59 |
Thank-you Chris, I should be able to sort those out.
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Nov 2014 19:15 |
Births Jun 1861 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- Rich Henry Wright E. Retford 7b 22
(wondering if above is the 'Rich' on 1861, says 6 days on image)
Births Jun 1857 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------- Rich Ann Elizabeth E Retford 7b 5
(the 4yr old)
Deaths Jun 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- Rich Henry Wright E. Retford 7b 14
Chris :)
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Nov 2014 19:56 |
according to several trees on ancestry .......
John Wright Rich is the son of George Rich and Elizabeth
and Elizabeth's maiden name was Wright ....... hence the prevalence of "Wright" as a second name among their children
this is what one of those trees shows
John Wright Rich Birth Bef. Mar 1852 in East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Death Dead
Parents
George Rich 1805 – 1885
Elizabeth Wright 1809 – 1881
Siblings
William Wright Rich 1828 – 1829
William Rich 1829 – 1892
George Rich 1831 –
Mary Anna Rich 1833 –
Charles Rich 1835 –
Walter Rich 1836 – 1840
John Wright Rich 1838 – 1841
Thomas Wright Rich 1840 – 1885
Walter Wright Rich 1843 – 1867
Sarah Wright Rich 1846 – 1883
Samuel Wright Rich 1848 –
John Wright Rich 1850 – 1850
William Wright Rich 1855 – 1855
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Teresa
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21 Nov 2014 14:18 |
Thank you Sylvia :-)
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Teresa
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19 Jan 2015 14:39 |
On the 20th November I asked and received information regarding John Wright Rich. I am now trying to find him in the 1891 census. He should have been married by then as his son Walter Wright Rich was born June qtr 1892. Retford. If anyone can help I would be grateful. Thank-you Teresa
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19 Jan 2015 17:57 |
Walter Wright Rich is the son of Millicent Rich. He was born before she married Thomas George Bellamy in 1897.
Your John Wright Rich is living with his wife Emily in Lancashire.
This is the 1891 showing John Wright Rich. His name has been transcribed as John William.
Name: John Wm Rich
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Rich
Gender: Male
Where born: Luseford, Nottinghamshire, England [Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England]
Civil Parish: Eccleston
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
John Wm Rich 41 Emily Rich 47 Emily Rich 18 Isabella Rich 13
and the 1911 to confirm it is the correct man. His wife is much older than him so highly unlikely that Walter is theirs. There is no Walter with them in 1901.
Name: John Wright Rich
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Eccleston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Mill Braw Cottage Eccleston
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Parish Clerk
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: Prescot John Wright Rich 59 Emily Rich 67 Isabella Annie Greenway 33
This is Walter in 1901
Name: Walter Rich
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Father: Geo Bellamy
Mother: Mill Bellamy
Birth Place: Gamston, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Gamston
Ecclesiastical parish: Gamston St Peter
Town: Gamston
County/Island: Nottinghamshire Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: East Retford
Charles Rick 66 Mill Bellamy 38 >>>>>>Daughter to Charles Geo Bellamy 40 Walter Rich 8 Mary A Bellamy 2 Millicent Bellamy 3/12
In 1911 he is noted as Walter Bellamy
Name: Walter Bellamy
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gamston, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Gamston and Eaton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Gamston Retford
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Farm Service Horseman
Registration district: East Retford
Millicent Bellamy 48 Walter Bellamy 18 Mary Alice Bellamy 12 Francis Bellamy 5
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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19 Jan 2015 18:33 |
Teresa I have pm'd you.
Everyone else seems now to have found the info you requested and a lot of it is the same as I have sent you.
Mel
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Teresa
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19 Jan 2015 20:14 |
Many thanks to everyone who has helped me tonight :-)
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19 Jan 2015 20:45 |
Hello Teresa, Wonder if you have this information ?. Marriage Sept Quarter 1875 Nottingham John Wright Rich Married either Emily Coates or Hannah Beresford Ref Vol 7b Page 339 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 Census
? Woodbank Chester Cheshire.
Edward Henshaw age 43 b.1838 Burton Cheshire occupation Lab Rachel Henshaw Wife age 42 b.1839 Rednal Shropshire Rachel Davies Niece Age 4 b.1877 Woodbank Cheshire *John Wright Rich Lodger Married age 31 b.1850 Luxford Nottingham Occupupation Gardener (Mkt) *
As John Wright Rich is perhaps working in Chester and staying as a lodger at above address Could this be his wife Emily as married women home alone just across the River Mersey in Liverpool with their children and as previously mentioned she is older than him.
1881 Census 6 Plum Street Litherland West Derby Liverpool Lancashire.
Emily Rich Wife Head Married age 37 b.1844 bury St Edmund,Suffolk dressmaker. Emily Rich daughter age 8 b.1873 Bury St Edmund Suffolk Isabella A Rich Daughter age 3 b.1878 Bury St Edmund Suffolk Robert Williamson Boarder Single age 25 b.1856 Fife Scotland Engine Fitter. Thos Harrison Boarder Single age 29 b.1852 Woolton Lancashire Carter..
Hope this helps in some way. Regards. Maureen. Liverpool.U.K.
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