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Ann Whittaker c 1823 Darwen update 25/11/2014

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Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Nov 2014 11:50

Just received James and Ann's marriage cert.
So disappointed.
There is no occupation noted for either parent and there is no occupation noted for Ann. Both are noted as - of full age
Witnesses are Abraham Jackson and Joseph Newton, so no help.

Any idea's
Maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 15 Nov 2014 13:30

thank you Sylvianin and Potty
strange a x thro it
anyway daughter is paying for the certificate so have ordered it
I just hope James is not a weaver
best wishes
Maddie

Potty

Potty Report 15 Nov 2014 12:09

familysearch has images of Banns for St Mary's. This is the image for James & Ann:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159376-972337-66?cc=1788853&wc=M6FD-5WL:143838901,158641601,158699401

For some reason it has a cross through it. The banns were called on the 8th, 15th & 22nd Mar 1846.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Nov 2014 06:24

from familysearch ...............


England Marriages, 1538-1973

Name: James Patchett
Spouse's Name: Ann Whittaker
Event Date: 29 Mar 1846
Event Place: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: George Patchett
Spouse's Father's Name: James Whittaker
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01077-9 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1656121 , Reference ID: p112 no224


Citing this Record

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NF1T-RFX : accessed 15 Nov 2014), James Patchett and Ann Whittaker, 29 Mar 1846; citing Oldham, Lancashire, England, reference p112 no224; FHL microfilm 1656121.



there is no image, but this is their transcription of the record



and also




England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers

Name: James Patchitt
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Mar 1846
Event Place: St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Ann Whittaker
GS Film number: 2358253 , Digital Folder Number: 004497937 , Image Number: 00477

Potty

Potty Report 14 Nov 2014 14:24

Lancashire BMD site gives Oldham, St Marys as the place for the marriage; sadly, Ancestry's images for that church only go up 1845.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Nov 2014 14:02

It may be worth contacting...................

http://www.lfhhs.org/branch.php?br=1

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Nov 2014 13:54

just found this
1841

1841 England Census about Ann Whitteker
Name: Ann Whitteker
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Whalley
Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Rossendale
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 506
Book: 12
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Whitteker 49 mechanic ?????
Ann Whitteker 50
James Whitteker 20
Ann Whitteker 18
Joseph Whitteker 18
William Whitteker 15
Jane Whitteker 13
Thos Whitteker 8

Baptism: 24 Feb 1822 Hippings wesleyan Chapel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England

goes with the baptism Mike found
James Whitaker - son of James Whitaker & Ann
Born: 14 Jan 1822
Abode: Hippings, Township of Oswaldtwistle in the Parish of Whalley
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: Edward Gibbons
Register: Baptisms 1817 - 1837, Page 5, Entry 36
Source: LDS Film 1482389

stil clutching at straws
Maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Nov 2014 13:34

thanks everyone
Mike
I think that was my tree, have deleted that as a result of finding the above select marriage record, wasn't available several years ago.

Your right about the marriage cert, but not til after Christmas.
1841 is interesting, Altham is about 12 miles from Darwen and Darwen to Whalley the same but so is the owaldtwistle birth.
This the third set of gg grandparets i have hit a brickwall with
:-( :-( :-(

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Nov 2014 13:18

Lancsopc has several possible candidates born between 1820 and 1825.
As said, you would need to know the occupation of her father to be able to narrow it down.

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 Nov 2014 13:16

From someone's tree ... ( treat with caution )

Birth: 1822 - Lancashire
Marriage: 1846 - Ashton Under Lyne, England
Death: Jun 1895 - Oldham, Lancashire, England
Parents: Henry Whittaker, Mary Haworth
Spouse: James Patchett

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but there is also this ....

Name:
Ann Whitaker

Event Type:Baptism

Father:James Whitaker
Mother:Ann Whitaker

Baptism Date:13 Jan 1824

Baptism Place:Whaley, Lancaster, England
Denomination:Wesleyan

Piece Title:
Piece 2559: Oswaldtwistle, Hippings Chapel, Whalley (Wesleyan), 1817-1837

--------------------------------

which also differs in date from the following ...

Baptism: 13 Jun 1824 Hippings wesleyan Chapel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Ann Whitaker - daughter of James Whitaker & Ann
Abode: Hippings
Occupation: Joiner

safc

safc Report 14 Nov 2014 13:15

????


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Moor Side, Whalley, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Whittaker Male 35 1806 Lancashire, England
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Ellen Whittaker Female 30 1811 Lancashire, England
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Ann Whittaker Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Whittaker Female 12 1829 Lancashire, England
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William Whittaker Male 11 1830 Lancashire, England
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Edward Whittaker Male 9 1832 Lancashire, England
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James Whittaker Male 3 1838 Lancashire, England
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John Whittaker Male 0 1841 Lancashire, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 14 Nov 2014 12:52

I take it you don't have marriage cert, for confirmation of her father's occupation? And whether he was 'deceased'

Also the names of witnesses...........

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Nov 2014 12:27

Please may I have your help to find her parents, I am going round in circles.
Ann married James Patchett in 1846 in Oldham, reg district Ashton under Lyne
Children
Hanna 1846, George 1848, Henry Whittaker 1854, Mary Janes 1861 and Sara Ann 1865
I have all the info on the children and James Patchett.
Her father is named as James Whittaker


England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Ann Whittaker
Name: Ann Whittaker
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 29 Mar 1846
Marriage Place: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Father: James Whittaker
Spouse: James Patchett
FHL Film Number: 1656121
Reference ID: p112 no224

I think I have found her in 1841
Ann Whittaker Female 15 1826 L ancashire, England Jermyn Street Parish or township Ashton under Lyne City or borough Ashton under Lyne
R egistration district
Ashton & Oldham

In all the folllowing census she gives her birth place as Darwen (Blackburn) Lancashire and birth year as 1822/23 as does her death registration in 1895

Any help will be gratefully received
thank you
Maddie