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looking for a marriage around 1900 England ?

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Blaine

Blaine Report 1 Nov 2014 16:38

From the 1901 and 1911 census
Charles Edward Owles b. 1869 Norwich Norfolk
he is married in both censuses to
a Florence E. _____ born c. 1873 Devon Devonshire

I cannot find the marriage... wonder if they did marry?
Says they are married for about 11 years in the 1911 census...
They have an adopted daughter in the 1911 census.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help...

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Nov 2014 16:56

For location


1901 England Census
Name: Florence E Owles
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Charles E Owles
Birth Place: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Stretford
Ecclesiastical parish: Whalley Range St Margaret
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Barton upon Irwell
Sub-registration district: Stretford

Charles E Owles 33
Florence E Owles 28
Reuben T Shenton 21


1911 England Census
Name: Florence Owles
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Devon, Devonshire
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 6 Deanery Road, Stratford E
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 11
Estimated Marriage Year: 1900
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Stratford

Charles Owles 40
Florence Owles 36
Florence Owles Mackenzie 9/12
Herbert Creek 35
Frank S Linegar 24
Florence C Sharp

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Nov 2014 17:21

I can't see a marriage either. They seemed to move around a bit too didn't they!

Have you managed to find deaths for them? Did consider these, but it's probably a step too far! And it assumes Florence's middle initial has been mis-transcribed.

Name: Charles E Owles
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Mar 1948
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Wallasey
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 656

Name: Florence C Owles
Birth Date: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Jun 1928
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 646

Name: Florence Owles Linacre
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1910
Date of Registration: Mar 1982
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 0613

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Nov 2014 17:24

I am guessing this is the adopted daughter, doesn't help one jot though.

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
MACKENZIE Florence O Lambeth 1d 335

Blaine

Blaine Report 1 Nov 2014 17:25

yes have the deaths.. thx

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Nov 2014 17:28

Did consider this one - the upstrokes of of a hand written W could be incorrectly transcibed as 2 x l
However, there is no way Edward could turn into Wright!

Disclaimer - None of the names have been followed through to census etc

Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
EATON Minnie Edmonton
HARRISON William Thomas Edmonton
>>>MASKELL Florence Edmonton 3a 895
>>>Ollis Charles Wright Edmonton 3a 895

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Nov 2014 17:29

OK, so have you got Florence's middle name in that case, from the death cert?

I assume this is their adopted daughter:

Marriages Sep 1936
Linacre Ronald S Owles Wallasey 8a 1853
Owles Florence K Linacre Wallasey 8a 1853

Name: Florence Owles Linacre
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1910
Date of Registration: Mar 1982
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 0613

Jan

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Nov 2014 17:35

Burial Register summary

Owles
Florence Cecilia
Burial date 11 April 1928
Authority Trafford Council
Location Stretford Cemetery (Greater Manchester)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Chris :)

edits

Births Sep 1874 (>99%)
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OWLES Florence Cecilia Chorlton 8c 794


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
OWLES Florence Cecilia Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/181/31

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1928
OWLES Florence Cecilia 53 Wallasey Wirral WAL/89/38

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(might be above)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Nov 2014 17:39

Nice one Chris!

Maybe?

Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
POTTER Florence Cecilia Taunton 5c 380

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Nov 2014 17:40

Not the above:

Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
POTTER Florence Cecilia Taunton 5c 633
RICHMOND Ernest Webber Taunton 5c 633
Spiller Bessie Taunton 5c 633
WARE Joe Taunton 5c 633

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Nov 2014 17:49

Blaine, I would recommend you get the death cert to ascertain her middle name.
I can't find a marriage for them, maybe someone else will have more luck.
Jan

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Nov 2014 17:59


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Florence Cecilia Owles




Name:Florence Cecilia Owles
Probate Date:12 Jun 1928
Death Date:8 Apr 1928
Death Place:Cheshire, England
Registry:
London, England

of 21 Stanley Avenue, Walleslay
to Mary Dorothy Owles Spinster
Effects £1440

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Nov 2014 17:59

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1936
LINACRE Ronald Stanley OWLES Florence Katharine New Brighton, St. James' Church Wirral C8/5/69

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris :)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Nov 2014 11:58

What maiden surname is shown on the tree?

Where do you get the info that Florence had married someone else before moving in with Owles?

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Nov 2014 12:06

Just looking through the records...

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
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Vogwill Florence Ellen Stoke D. 5b 339


Andy

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Nov 2014 12:15

Good find, Andy!

Based on that...........

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Duke Street, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Vogwill Head - Male 46 1825 - Devon, England Transcription
Mary A Vogwill Wife - Female 40 1831 - Devon, England Transcription
Mary A Vogwill Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Devon, England Transcription
Sebina Vogwill Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Devon, England Transcription
William Vogwill Son - Male 14 1857 - Devon, England Transcription
Emily Vogwill Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Devon, England Transcription
John Vogwill Son - Male 9 1862 - Devon, England Transcription
Fredrick Vogwill Son - Male 7 1864 - Devon, England Transcription
James Vogwill Son - Male 5 1866 - Devon, England Transcription
Annie Vogwill Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Devon, England Transcription
Florence Vogwill Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Devon, England Transcription
Mary Martin Visitor - Female 25 1846 - Devon, England Transcription

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Nov 2014 12:23

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29, Duke Street, Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Vogwill Head Married Male 60 1821 Dairyman Devon, England Transcription
Mary A Vogwill Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Devon, England Transcription
William Vogwill Son Single Male 25 1856 Shipwright Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
Fred Vogwill Son Single Male 18 1863 Smith Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
James Vogwill Son Single Male 15 1866 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
Selina Vogwill Daughter Single Female 28 1853 Dressmaker Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
Annie Vogwill Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
Flora Vogwill Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
William Kendle Lodger Married Male 72 1809 Pensioner Stonehouse, Devon, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Nov 2014 12:25


Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)

Austin William George Stoke Damerel 5b 692
GANNON Francis George Stoke D. 5b 692
Prynn Maud Mary Stoke D. 5b 692
Vogwill Florence Stoke D. 5b 692

Confirmation of who married whom

First name(s) Francis G
Last name Gannon
Marriage year 1888
Marriage date 22 Jun 1888
Spouse's first name(s) Florence
Spouse's last name Vogwill
County Devon
Country Great Britain
Division Plymouth
Series ADM 184
Piece 44
Record set British Royal Marines, marriage registers 1813-1920
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Nov 2014 12:27

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Emma Place, East Stonehouse, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francis G Gannon Head Married Male 29 1862 Sergeant R Marine L ? Salford, Lancashire, England Transcription
Florence Gannon Wife Married Female 20 1871 - Devonport, Devon, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Nov 2014 12:30


Deaths Dec 1945 (>99%)
Gannon Francis G 85 Manchester 8d 207


First name(s) Francis
Last name Gannon
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Gender Male
Age 21
Birth year 1860
Occupation Private Royal Marines Light Infantry
Birth town Salford
Birth town as transcribed SALFORD
Birth county Lancashire
Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE
Birth place England
House name Indus
Street -
Town -
Parish Devonport Stoke-Damerel
County Devon
Country England
Registration district Stoke-Damerel
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2214
Folio 139
Page 17
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census