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Parish Registers

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Cathryn

Cathryn Report 29 Oct 2014 17:42

I am trying to locate Parish Registers on Genes Reunited. Has anyone been successful.

mgnv

mgnv Report 29 Oct 2014 18:05

For which county?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Oct 2014 18:49

welcome to the boards Cathryn :-)

can we help you find what you're looking for?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Oct 2014 20:43

I don't think Parish Registers are on here are they??


If they are, I think you have to buy credits



Why not use the free site ..................

www.familysearch.org/search


or google to see if the county you are interested in has been participating in the Online Parish Clerks Project ........ or opc ............ also FREE


http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/online_parish_clerk


Lancashire OPC is excellent .............. and so are several other sites.



Look for SEAX for the Essex area ................. I think a sub or credits are required for this one

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 29 Oct 2014 21:11

OR
www.freereg.org.uk

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Oct 2014 21:16

you know .................

I almost never have success on freereg!!

I think I have found something twice out of about 100 attempts over the eyars


it must be me! :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Oct 2014 21:17

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/articles/world-records/full-list-of-united-kingdom-records/births-marriages-and-deaths/births-and-baptisms

(above from 'Search' top right corner of page)

But, as said, they could also be elsewhere!)

Chris :)

edits (no idea on cost, or which Membership needed)

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Oct 2014 03:52

I've never used the records on GR, but I understand they're pretty similar to what's on FMP, and FMP is good for Wales, Cheshire, and the NE of England, and maybe others I've never used..

Sylvia - yeah, there's a lot of geographic variability in FreeREG coverage, eh.

For Lancs, but transcriptions only, http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ is v. good.

Elsewhere, usually my first choice is one of the collections at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

NB I've no Ancestry sub.

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 30 Oct 2014 13:04

I'll let Cathryn know how to find the replies to her query :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Oct 2014 17:24

mgnv



I guess I'm just unlucky ....................... that no-one I've looked for whether for myself or someone I'm helping has been transcribed on FreeREG!

mgnv

mgnv Report 31 Oct 2014 10:11

I got a reply by pm from Cathryn - I've advised her to reply on the thread in the future. She said:
"I need Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Worcestershire, and Warwickshire.
My name search is Cockin and a few others."

Ancestry looks to be quite good for Warwick. Amongst their collections are:
Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
Birmingham, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Birmingham, England, Burials, 1813-1964
Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
and
Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812
Warwickshire, England, Burials, 1813-1910
Warwickshire, England, Extracted Parish Records
Warwickshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910
Warwickshire, England, Miscellaneous Parish Records
Warwickshire, England, Parish Poor Law, 1546-1904
Warwickshire, England, Selected Parish Baptisms, 1558-1652
Warwickshire, England, Selected Parish Marriages, 1558-1812

It might be worthwhile for you to check if your local library has an Ancestry subscription - many do. My local library does, as do 3 of the adjacent 4 municipalities (but I don't live in the UK).


For Derbysh, you might check out Derek's thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073


Not that it's parish records, but...
The GRO sells copies of BMDs of English civil registrations from 1837q3 on (and otherBMDs).
However, one can also buy BMDs from the local rego office that now holds the original regos (or a copy in the case of church marrs), and some local offices have their indexes online, see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

Of relevance here are http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/
and http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/

Now it's always worth supplementing a lookup in the GRO index with one in the local index, if available.
Here's a few lookups of Cockin (and variants) - well I had to use some name for exaamples.

From the GRO index via http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Sep 1847 (>99%)
Cockin George Penkridge 17 107
Cockin Male Penkridge 17 107
[So one naturally wonders if they were twins]

Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)
Cockayne Henry Penkridge 17 175
Craddock Charlotte Penkridge 17 175

Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%)
Baker Emma Walsall 17 259
COCKAYNE John Walsall 17 259
Glover Mary Walsall 17 259
GRICE Benjamin Walsall 17 259
HUGHES William Walsall 17 259
PROFFITT Ann Chester Walsall 17 259
PROFFITT Thomas Walsall 17 259
Richardson Sarah Walsall 17 259

Here's the local index for Penkridge, but Walsall's unindexed, so who wed whom is unresolved.

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1847
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COCKIN (boy) Son Of Henry And Charlotte Cannock (old Penkridge Rural District) Newcastle-Under-Lyme CRADDOCK CAN/04/354
COCKIN George Cannock (old Penkridge Rural District) Newcastle-Under-Lyme RICHARDSON CAN/04/353

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COCKAYNE Mary Cannock (old Penkridge Rural District) Newcastle-Under-Lyme RICHARDSON CAN/05/256

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COCKAYNE Henry CRADDOCK Charlotte Norton Canes, St James Newcastle-Under-Lyme C1NCJ/1/33


This also indicates the Cockin/Cockayne variation in spelling.

Now the format of the local ref is:
1) M: a church/registrar code; B/D a subdistrict code;
2) a register # (within the church/subdistrict);
3) an entry # or page #.
Usually, marrs have an entry #, so one can pair up spouses.
A B/D rego, or a church rego has 500 entries (the registrar's rego has 200 entries).
Marrs are 2 entries per page & B/Ds are 5 entries per page.
(Thus the Cockayne/Craddock marr is entry # 33, and occurs on page 17 =33/2 rounded up.
This is useful if you're browsing thru unindexed registers post-1837, and you've gotten a local index hit, even if some indexes don't decode the church code.)


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Finally, a couple of general hints re parishes.

Firstly, there's an 1850 map of English parishes at:
http://maps.familysearch.org/
If you click on Staffs, then list all the parishes, then pick Norton Canes/Caines, then click on te layers tab, and layer on the civil RD, you'' see the parish is in the SE corner of Penkridge RD, right next to Walsall RD.

If I click on the Penkridge link in the FreeBMD hit above, then the more info "here" link, you'll see a list of all the parishes and townships that were ever in the RD, plus:
PENKRIDGE REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Sub-districts : Brewood, Cannock, Penkridge.
Registers currently held at : Staffordshire (Newcastle), Staffordshire (Cannock) and Sandwell.
which lists all the subdistricts that were ever in Penkridge.
[Cannock is in the E of the RD, Brewood in the SW, and Penkridge in the NW of the RD.]

Secondly, there's an online copy of Lewis (1848) at:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=445
Here's a bit of a sample entry:
DERITEND, a chapelry, in the parish and union of Aston, Birmingham division of the hundred of Hemlingford, N. division of the county of Warwick.
So, if I can't find a parish rego for Deritrend, then it might appear under it's parent parish - Aston in this example.
Also, Deritend was in the Aston poor-law union, and the 1837 RDs were (nearly?) always based on the poor-law unions.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 31 Oct 2014 10:22

Derek in Derbyshire has extensive PR and is more than willing to help.
Post your specific query on his thread. Remember to acknowledge him on there as well!

Derbyshire Parish Records
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 31 Oct 2014 13:05

Staffordshire is well represented on freereg and a quick look reveals a lot of Cockins and variants.

Cathryn

Cathryn Report 5 Nov 2014 11:26

I would like to thank everyone who has replied to my Parish Registers/Records question.

I have had difficulty in using this way of communication via "My Threads" and I must thank 'mgnv' very much for his patience in instructing me how to get in contact with everyone.

:-) Pat [Cathryn]

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Nov 2014 17:49

Pat


for future reference ...........

........... please do not tick any posts on any of your threads unless the question has really and truly been answered!


The tick indicates that the request has been answered ......... it is not an acknowledgement that you have seen the post

The "tick" then shows on the Board listing of threads ................. as an indication that no-one else need respond


A quirk in GR's system means that the "tick" cannot not removed once there.


Cathryn

Cathryn Report 11 Nov 2014 12:35

I have found GR does not have a good selection of Parish Records. I have had to go researching at familysearch and even that has changed over the years. I am very glad I started my family history research as early as the 1980's because it was much easier to obtain information.

I am now just trying to fill gaps and that is why I asked help to locate Parish Registers on line. I am now not able to travel around the country looking at church records.

The information I have received from many lovely people is amazing and I am truly grateful at the suggestions.

Just thought I would put this note on Threads to prove I think I have mastered communication!!!!

:-) Pat

Cathryn

Cathryn Report 17 Nov 2014 16:33

Thank you everyone for all your help. Any more information you may come up with would be appreciated.

I have found people in GR very helpful so I am being spoilt by them investigating on my behalf, as they seem to know where to look.

My interests are COCKIN[g][s] - Warwickshire 1700's 1800's - Staffordshire 1800's - Birmingham 1900's also GUISE - Worcestershire 1700's 1800's. CHECKETTS - 1700's 1800's. FIELD - Warwickshire 1700's and Worcestershire 1800's. Many more but that is by the way.

[Cathryn] :-)