Thank you everyone for all your help. Any more information you may come up with would be appreciated.
I have found people in GR very helpful so I am being spoilt by them investigating on my behalf, as they seem to know where to look.
My interests are COCKIN[g][s] - Warwickshire 1700's 1800's - Staffordshire 1800's - Birmingham 1900's also GUISE - Worcestershire 1700's 1800's. CHECKETTS - 1700's 1800's. FIELD - Warwickshire 1700's and Worcestershire 1800's. Many more but that is by the way.
[Cathryn] :-)
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I have found GR does not have a good selection of Parish Records. I have had to go researching at familysearch and even that has changed over the years. I am very glad I started my family history research as early as the 1980's because it was much easier to obtain information.
I am now just trying to fill gaps and that is why I asked help to locate Parish Registers on line. I am now not able to travel around the country looking at church records.
The information I have received from many lovely people is amazing and I am truly grateful at the suggestions.
Just thought I would put this note on Threads to prove I think I have mastered communication!!!!
:-) Pat
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Pat
for future reference ...........
........... please do not tick any posts on any of your threads unless the question has really and truly been answered!
The tick indicates that the request has been answered ......... it is not an acknowledgement that you have seen the post
The "tick" then shows on the Board listing of threads ................. as an indication that no-one else need respond
A quirk in GR's system means that the "tick" cannot not removed once there.
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I would like to thank everyone who has replied to my Parish Registers/Records question.
I have had difficulty in using this way of communication via "My Threads" and I must thank 'mgnv' very much for his patience in instructing me how to get in contact with everyone.
:-) Pat [Cathryn]
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I got a reply by pm from Cathryn - I've advised her to reply on the thread in the future. She said: "I need Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Worcestershire, and Warwickshire. My name search is Cockin and a few others."
Ancestry looks to be quite good for Warwick. Amongst their collections are: Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912 Birmingham, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Birmingham, England, Burials, 1813-1964 Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937 and Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910 Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812 Warwickshire, England, Burials, 1813-1910 Warwickshire, England, Extracted Parish Records Warwickshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910 Warwickshire, England, Miscellaneous Parish Records Warwickshire, England, Parish Poor Law, 1546-1904 Warwickshire, England, Selected Parish Baptisms, 1558-1652 Warwickshire, England, Selected Parish Marriages, 1558-1812
It might be worthwhile for you to check if your local library has an Ancestry subscription - many do. My local library does, as do 3 of the adjacent 4 municipalities (but I don't live in the UK).
For Derbysh, you might check out Derek's thread: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073
Not that it's parish records, but... The GRO sells copies of BMDs of English civil registrations from 1837q3 on (and otherBMDs). However, one can also buy BMDs from the local rego office that now holds the original regos (or a copy in the case of church marrs), and some local offices have their indexes online, see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Of relevance here are http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/ and http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/
Now it's always worth supplementing a lookup in the GRO index with one in the local index, if available. Here's a few lookups of Cockin (and variants) - well I had to use some name for exaamples.
From the GRO index via http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Births Sep 1847 (>99%) Cockin George Penkridge 17 107 Cockin Male Penkridge 17 107 [So one naturally wonders if they were twins]
Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%) Cockayne Henry Penkridge 17 175 Craddock Charlotte Penkridge 17 175
Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%) Baker Emma Walsall 17 259 COCKAYNE John Walsall 17 259 Glover Mary Walsall 17 259 GRICE Benjamin Walsall 17 259 HUGHES William Walsall 17 259 PROFFITT Ann Chester Walsall 17 259 PROFFITT Thomas Walsall 17 259 Richardson Sarah Walsall 17 259
Here's the local index for Penkridge, but Walsall's unindexed, so who wed whom is unresolved.
Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1847 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference COCKIN (boy) Son Of Henry And Charlotte Cannock (old Penkridge Rural District) Newcastle-Under-Lyme CRADDOCK CAN/04/354 COCKIN George Cannock (old Penkridge Rural District) Newcastle-Under-Lyme RICHARDSON CAN/04/353
Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1849 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference COCKAYNE Mary Cannock (old Penkridge Rural District) Newcastle-Under-Lyme RICHARDSON CAN/05/256
Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference COCKAYNE Henry CRADDOCK Charlotte Norton Canes, St James Newcastle-Under-Lyme C1NCJ/1/33
This also indicates the Cockin/Cockayne variation in spelling.
Now the format of the local ref is: 1) M: a church/registrar code; B/D a subdistrict code; 2) a register # (within the church/subdistrict); 3) an entry # or page #. Usually, marrs have an entry #, so one can pair up spouses. A B/D rego, or a church rego has 500 entries (the registrar's rego has 200 entries). Marrs are 2 entries per page & B/Ds are 5 entries per page. (Thus the Cockayne/Craddock marr is entry # 33, and occurs on page 17 =33/2 rounded up. This is useful if you're browsing thru unindexed registers post-1837, and you've gotten a local index hit, even if some indexes don't decode the church code.)
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Finally, a couple of general hints re parishes.
Firstly, there's an 1850 map of English parishes at: http://maps.familysearch.org/ If you click on Staffs, then list all the parishes, then pick Norton Canes/Caines, then click on te layers tab, and layer on the civil RD, you'' see the parish is in the SE corner of Penkridge RD, right next to Walsall RD.
If I click on the Penkridge link in the FreeBMD hit above, then the more info "here" link, you'll see a list of all the parishes and townships that were ever in the RD, plus: PENKRIDGE REGISTRATION DISTRICT Sub-districts : Brewood, Cannock, Penkridge. Registers currently held at : Staffordshire (Newcastle), Staffordshire (Cannock) and Sandwell. which lists all the subdistricts that were ever in Penkridge. [Cannock is in the E of the RD, Brewood in the SW, and Penkridge in the NW of the RD.]
Secondly, there's an online copy of Lewis (1848) at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=445 Here's a bit of a sample entry: DERITEND, a chapelry, in the parish and union of Aston, Birmingham division of the hundred of Hemlingford, N. division of the county of Warwick. So, if I can't find a parish rego for Deritrend, then it might appear under it's parent parish - Aston in this example. Also, Deritend was in the Aston poor-law union, and the 1837 RDs were (nearly?) always based on the poor-law unions.
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mgnv
I guess I'm just unlucky ....................... that no-one I've looked for whether for myself or someone I'm helping has been transcribed on FreeREG!
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I've never used the records on GR, but I understand they're pretty similar to what's on FMP, and FMP is good for Wales, Cheshire, and the NE of England, and maybe others I've never used..
Sylvia - yeah, there's a lot of geographic variability in FreeREG coverage, eh.
For Lancs, but transcriptions only, http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ is v. good.
Elsewhere, usually my first choice is one of the collections at: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
NB I've no Ancestry sub.
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you know .................
I almost never have success on freereg!!
I think I have found something twice out of about 100 attempts over the eyars
it must be me! :-)
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I don't think Parish Registers are on here are they??
If they are, I think you have to buy credits
Why not use the free site ..................
www.familysearch.org/search
or google to see if the county you are interested in has been participating in the Online Parish Clerks Project ........ or opc ............ also FREE
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/online_parish_clerk
Lancashire OPC is excellent .............. and so are several other sites.
Look for SEAX for the Essex area ................. I think a sub or credits are required for this one
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