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LettyLoo

LettyLoo Report 16 Oct 2014 13:06

Am trying to find any records with regards to Mary Howes born 1834. Especially keen to know if there is a marriage certificates available.

The information I have been able to gather so far is:

1: A baptism record.. 9th Feb 1834 St Lukes Parish Church Kislingbury, Nothamptonshire. And

2: A 1851 Census Record.

1851 Cencus: Facers Yard Kislingbury Northamptonshire
William Howes 1807 Lodger GG LAB Born Kislingbury
Mary Howes 1834 Lodger ((Daughter to William.) Born Kislingbury
Thomas Eason 1812 Head born Towcester
Sarah A Eason 1845 Daughter born Kislingbury
Elizabeth J 1848 Daughter born Kislingbury
Sarah A 1851 Daughter born Kislingbury

Thank you for your help:

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Oct 2014 13:09

Have you looked on FreeBMD for any possible marriage

Have you looked for her on any later census

LettyLoo

LettyLoo Report 16 Oct 2014 13:14

Yes have looked on later earlier censuses but no luck. I will look on freeBMD

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 13:14

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Howe Name:Mary Howes
Registration Year:1858
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Northampton
Inferred County:Northamptonshire
Volume:3b
Page:89

Records on Page:

Mary Howes
Richards Jeffs


Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Oct 2014 13:15

How did you work back to her?

Do you have any reason to think she married anyone?

Have you looked for her on a later census?

Or for a death/marriage on freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Oct 2014 13:15

She isn't with her dad in 1861


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Lane, Kislingbury, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

William Howes Head Widower Male 52 1809 Agricultural Labourer

Or 1871


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Lane, Kislingbury, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

William Howes Head - Male 63 1808 - Northamptonshire, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Oct 2014 13:16

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Lane, Kislingbury, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Howes Head Widower Male 52 1809 Agricultural Labourer - Transcription

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 13:16

Looking at the ages of the children......it seems Richard had been married before.




.1861 England Census about Mary Jeffs
Name:Mary Jeffs
Age:27
Estimated Birth Year:1834
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:Richard Jeffs
Gender:Female
Where born:Kislingbury, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish:Kislingbury
County/Island:Northamptonshire
Country:England
Registration district:Northampton
Sub-registration district:Bugbrooke

Household Members:


Richard Jeffs 43
Mary Jeffs 27
John Jeffs 19
Emelina Jeffs 17
William S 14
Lucy S 10
Thomas Howes 6 Illegitimate Son
Samuel Jeffs 2
Sophia Jeffs 1





Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Oct 2014 13:17

Try looking on 1861 census for her by first name, birth year and birthplace ONLY

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Oct 2014 13:18

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Lane, Kislingbury, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Jeffs Head Married Male 43 1818 Agricultural Labourer - Transcription
Mary Jeffs Wife Married Female 27 1834 Agricultural Labourers Wife - Transcription
John Jeffs Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Farmers Groom - Transcription
Emelina Jeffs Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Agricultural Labourers Daughter - Transcription
William Jeffs Son - Male 14 1847 Agricultural Labourer - Transcription
Lucy Jeffs Daughter - Female 10 1851 Lace Maker - Transcription
Thomas Howes ... - Male 6 1855 Scholar - Transcription
Samuel Jeffs Son - Male 2 1859 - - Transcription
Sophia Jeffs Daughter - Female 1 1860 - - Transcription


Looks like Mary had an illegitimate son

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Oct 2014 13:21

Baptism
County Northamptonshire
Place Kislingbury
Church St Luke
RegisterNumber 362
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Feb 1834
Forename Mary
Sex F
FatherForename William
MotherForename Sophia
FatherSurname HOWES
MotherSurname
Abode Kislingbury
FatherOccupation Labourer

Chris :)

(no idea if below relating!)

Baptism
County Northamptonshire
Place Kislingbury
Church St Luke
RegisterNumber 729
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 27 May 1855
Forename Thomas
Sex M
FatherForename
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname
MotherSurname HOWES
Abode Kislingbury
FatherOccupation Spinster

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Oct 2014 13:22

Living in Mill Lane the same as her dad

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Lane, Kislingbury, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Jeffs Head Married Male 43 1818 Agricultural Labourer - Transcription
Mary Jeffs Wife Married Female 27 1834 Agricultural Labourers Wife - Transcription
John Jeffs Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Farmers Groom -
Emelina Jeffs Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Agricultural Labourers Daughter - Transcription
William Jeffs Son - Male 14 1847 Agricultural Labourer - Transcription
Lucy Jeffs Daughter - Female 10 1851 Lace Maker - Transcription
Thomas Howes ... - Male 6 1855 Scholar - Transcription
Samuel Jeffs Son - Male 2 1859 - - Transcription
Sophia Jeffs Daughter - Female 1 1860 - - Transcription


Looks like she had a son Thomas c1855

Maybe
Name: Thomas Howes
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Northampton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 67

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 13:26

Richard Jeffs in 1851......
1851 England Census about Richard Jeffs Name:Richard Jeffs
Age:32
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1819
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Harriet Jeffs
Gender:Male
Where born:Kislingbury, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish:Kislingbury
County/Island:Northamptonshire
Country:England


Household Members:

Richard Jeffs 32
Harriet Jeffs 29
John Jeffs 9
Emiline Jeffs 6
William Jeffs 4
Lucy Jeffs 1


Deaths Mar 1853 (>99%)
Jeffs Harriett Northampton 3b 63


Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Oct 2014 13:34

Those ages are not the same as 1861

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 13:41

Yes I see that now and deleted.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 15:12

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Saml. Howes Name:Saml. Howes
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:27 May 1832
Baptism Place:Kislingbury, Northampton, England
Father:Wm. Howes
Mother:Sophia Howes
FHL Film Number:6127945


I wonder if this is William, Samuel and Mary..... and Mary's age should actually read 7 and not 70!

??


1841 England Census
about William Howes Name:William Howes
Age:30
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1811
Gender:Male
Where born:Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish:Kislingbury
Hundred:Nobottle Grove
County/Island:Northamptonshire
Country:England
:Registration district:Northampton
Sub-registration district:Bugbrooke

Household Members:

William Howes 30 (Ag Lab)
Samuel Howes 9
Mary Howes 70
Elizabeth Frampton 25
John Thompson 10 Mo

I think it is!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 15:18

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Hannah Howes Name:Hannah Howes
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:9 Apr 1837
Baptism Place:Kislingbury, Northampton, England
Father:Wm. Howes
Mother:Sophia
FHL Film Number1999500
Reference ID:p 1 No 4


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Hannah Howes :Hannah Howes
Registration Year:1837
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Northampton
Inferred County:Northamptonshire
Volume:15
Page:189



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 15:22

The death of Sophia........

??
England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
about Sophia Howes Name:Sophia Howes
Gender:Female
Burial Date:12 Dec 1837
Burial Place:Kislingbury, Northampton, England
FHL Film Number:1999500
Reference ID:
p 3 No 20

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 15:32

1851 England Census
about Samuel Howes Name:Samuel Howes
Age:19
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1832
Relation:Visitor
Gender:Male
Where born:Kislingbury, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish:Northampton St Peter
Town:Northampton
County/Island:Northamptonshire

Household Members:

William Keynes 28
Elizabeth Keynes 28
Eliza J Keynes 3
Emily Keynes 1
Edward Taylor 23
Samuel Howes 19 (Shoe Maker)



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Samuel Howes (Bachelor) Boot and Shoe Maker
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1832
Age:21
Spouse: Eliza Tatt (Spinster)
Spouse Age:19
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:21 Mar 1853
Parish:St Philip, Bethnal Green
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:William Howes (Labourer)
Spouse Father:John Tatt (Labourer)
Register Type:Parish Register
Witnesses: George Minickton? and Mary Edwards

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Oct 2014 15:38

It seems Eliza had been transcribed as Ellen

1861 England Census
about Samuel Howes Name:Samuel Howes
Age:29
Estimated Birth Year:1832
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Ellen Howes
Gender:Male
Where born:Kislingbury, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish:Islington St Mary
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England
Registration district:Islington
Sub-registration district:Islington East


Household Members:

Samuel Howes 29 (Boot and Shoe Maker)
Ellen Howes 26
William Howes 7
Sam Howes 5
Richard Howes 1
Maria Milton 32(Visitor)
Sarah Milton 11