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Thanks Potty.

I will probably never find the birth/bapt for Francis, but am interested to know roughly what area of Ireland he MAY have come from just in case I do find his birth/bapt info.......!!

What you say makes sense and is something for me to think about.

I know Irish research isn't exactly easy......

Thanks again Potty,

Marcus ;-)

Ancestry brings up over 5000 people born in Ireland living in the Whitechapel Reg Dist in 1841. That is the only census Francis 1791 appears on. Margaret is the one whose POB changes from Ireland in 1841 to St Georges in 1851.

Given that the children were baptised and married in the Anglican parish church, it would appear that the family probably weren't Catholic, so possibly (but not necessarily) Francis was born in one of the Ulster counties. Even if you find a baptism for a Francis b1791, how could you be sure that it was your Francis?

Magaret is the eldest daughter of Francis & Margaret Finegan (as mentioned by potty). She married Henry John Finch (as mention by brummiejan). Emma is their daughter !!

Emma Finch is my 2xGreat grandmother on my fathers side of things!

Getting back to my original question, if there is a sizeable Irish population in the St George in the East area of London, and Francis Finnegan IS Irish, then which part of Ireland might they have come from? North, south, S/E Ireland ??

Failing that, where was Francis born/baptised?

Marcus

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There does seem to have been a daughter called Margaret - and she would appear to have been baptised twice! Unless there were two Francis (bricklayer) & Margaret living in the same street and having a child with almost the same name on the same day!

Margaret Fannagan 2 Nov 1817 St George in the East Tower Hamlets Francis Fannagan,
Margaret Fannagan


Margaretta Finnigan 8 Oct 1817 St George in the East Tower Hamlets Francis Finnigan,
Margaretta Finnigan

Ancestry has images of both.

I wonder who Emma is? Not even a birthplace given!

Did go out on a limb here, but probably a co-incidence - you know how I like to speculate!!:

ame: Margaret Fenigin
Spouse: Henry John Finch
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 1 Jan 1837
Parish: St John, Hackney
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register

Jan

I don't see a military record that fits- Ann, where's that information from?

FMP version.......for confirmation of birthplaces

Francis snr was deceased by this time

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Causeway, Saint Anne Limehouse, Stepney, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francis Finnegan Head Unmarried Male 27 1824 Marine Store Servant St George in the East, Middlesex, England Transcription
Margaret Finnegan Mother Widow Female 61 1790 Marine Store Servant St George in the East, Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary Finnegan Sister Unmarried Female 25 1826 Marine Store Servant St George in the East, Middlesex, England Transcription
Elizabeth Finnegan Sister Unmarried Female 21 1830 Marine Store Servant St George in the East, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emma Finch Visitor - Female 5 1846 - St George in the East, Middlesex, England Transcription

Yes, Potty, that's them!

Is this Francis in 1841:


1841 England Census
about Francis Finegan

Francis Finegan
Age:50
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1791
Gender:Male
Where born:Ireland
Civil Parish:St Mary Whitechapel
Hundred:Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England

Francis Finegan 50
Margaret Finegan 49
Franciss Finegan 18
Elizh Finegan 17
Mary Finegan 16
Caroline Finegan 10

and this in 1851:


1851 England Census
Margaret Finnegan
Age:61
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1790
Relation:Mother
Gender:Female
Where born:St Georges East, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Limehouse
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England

Francis Finnegan 27
Margaret Finnegan 61
Mary Finnegan 25
Elizabeth Finnegan 21
Emma Finch 5

That Francis is Margaret's son, not her husband

Registration district:Stepney
Sub-registration district:Limehouse
Street address:
Registration district:Whitechapel
Sub-registration district:Whitechapel Church

Jan,

It does seem unlikely. Unless only Francis was and the whole family was accidently put down as 'Irish' by the enumerator?

With a name like Finnegan....... Well, to me it is a Irish name!

Margaret, his wife, was English (from London) as far as I know.


Ann,

Thanks for that. Where did you dig that up from? It may be a possibility?


Thanks to you both,

Marcus

Marcus, in 1841 it states that the whole family was born in Ireland, but in view of the London marriage this seems unlikely doesn't it. Wonder if it's just an error?
Jan

military record

????????????

Name: Francis Finnegan
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Dublin
Relationship to Head of Household: Private
Schedule Type: Institution

One of my ancestors, Francis Finegan, states in 1841 census that he and all his family came from 'Ireland'. (No where in particular - just Ireland).

(1841 census ref:- HO 107 / 716 folio 5 pp3) (Queens Head Court).

In 1816/17 he marries Margaret Wood, at St George in the East, Middlesex, and his 7 children ARE born in this area (1817 - 1831).

From 1851 census onwards, he states that he and all his family are from St Geoerge in the East are of London - no irish roots mentioned !!

My question being, if there is/was an irish population in this part of London, which part of Ireland did they tend to come from. Or is this too big a question to ask??

Any thoughts?

Marcus