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Linda re the Male Christian name.. Parlane or "Parlan" is Gaelic for Bartholomew ... Arrocher is the Historical Seat of the Clan McFarlane...The ancestor of the clan was Gilchrist, brother of Maldowen, the third Earl of Lennox. Gilchrist's grandson was Bartholomew, which in Gaelic is Parlan, from whom the clan are designed—the letters " Ph " in MacPhàrlain sounding like F in Gaelic. Note that Mac or Mhic translates to " Son of " Making the full anglicised translation of MacFarlane " Son of Bartholomew ".

yes it was a co-incidence on that Marriage of John Turner and Agnes Macfarlane 1858 and no relative of mine as my Turners came from Salen.

It may be worth remembering that The Glasgow Poor Relief records have survived. They are held in The Mitchell Library and are indexed. Just thinking that Duncan Senior was quite old when he was living in Glasgow and may have applied for relief if he required medical treatment.

Sorry, I meant the John Turner who married Agnes McFarlane in 1858 in Luss that Ann posted. Was he related to your Turners or was that just a co-incidence?

oh yes John Turner is another son of Duncan Turner who was on 1881 census living in Newcastle upon Tyne.

Gin sent this also some others above.

this is John Turner Birth;
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name:John Turner

Gender:Male

Birth Date:6 May 1857

Birth Place:
Arrochar,Dunbarton,Scotland

Father:
Duncan Turner

Mother:
Ann Macfarlane ???

FHL Film Number:6035516

Rootgatherer.

I shall dismiss the 1841 census and the 1858 marriage too!

So both boys and father Duncan, Dugald with family moved to glasgow.

yes Duncan Turner snr was a Shepherd and died 1894 Glasgow.

I must apply for his death certificate to see what information it may give!

Thank you for your help.
Linda.

1891

Name: Duncan Turner
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Duncon Turner
Gender: Male
Where born: Inverary, Argyleshire
Registration Number: 644/13
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 109 West St
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 39
LINE: 21
Roll: CSSCT1891_294
Household Members:
Name Age
Duncon Turner 71, Retired Shepherd
Duncan Turner 32

1891

Name: Dugald Turner
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Turner
Gender: Male
Where born: Luss, Dumbartonshire
Registration Number: 644/14
Registration district: Kinning Park
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 212 Scotland St
Occupation: Labourer Spirit
ED: 25
Household schedule number: 127
LINE: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_298
Household Members:
Name Age
Dugald Turner 39
Mary Turner 30, b. ardchattan,Argyll
Agnes Turner 1
Duncan Turner 1 Mo
Flora Black 12, sister-in-law

1901


Name: Dugald Turner
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Turner
Gender: Male
Where born: Luss, Dumbartonshire
Registration Number: 560B
Registration district: Cathcart Burgh
Civil Parish: Cathcart
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 26 Stevenson Drive
Occupation: Storeman
ED: 20
Household schedule number: 19
LINE: 10
Roll: CSSCT1901_190
Household Members:
Name Age
Dugald Turner 48
Mary Turner 40
Agnes Turner 11
Duncan Turner 10
Flora A Turner 6

Apologies Linda. I misread the details and thought that it was Duncan's wife whose maiden surname was MacFarlane not his Daughter in law. So the 1841 census may not be relevant.


EDIT

Getting confused here (nothing new on my part lol). Where does this fit in? Is this John related to your Duncan?

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Name: John Turner
Spouse's Name: Agnes Mcfarlane
Event Date: 04 Jun 1858
Event Place: Luss,Dunbarton,Scotland
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11499-1 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 6035516

Root gatherer.
All that you have given above is correct for Agnes, she was born in Arrochar.

What a strange name for a male.

thank you for your help.

Maybe??? Remember ages were rounded down in 1841

Name: Agnes Macfarlane
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Arrochar
County: Dunbartonshire
Address: Tynaclack
Parish Number: 492
Household Members:
Name Age
Parlane Macfarlane 60
Agnes Macfarlane 55
Agnes Macfarlane 20
Parlane Macfarlane 35

Rootgatherer

Thank you I do know that Agnes turner died in 1866 in Scotland. Yes thank you for reminding me of the variants name spelling!

Thank you for your help potty!

Agnes Turner, maiden name MacFarlane appears on the 1861 census. If she remained in Scotland her death will be on Scotlandspeople. Female deaths can be searched using both surnames. Scottish death registrations name both parents including the mother's maiden surname if the informant knew the details.

Remember to select surname variants when searching for MacFarlane as this will include McFarlane.

scotlandspeople has the marriage for Agnes in 1858 and the entry will show the parents of both Agnes & John. It is a pay to view site.

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Thank you everyone for your help on the above information it has helped me a lot!

How do I go about trying to find the mother `Agnes Macfarlane` parents or the marriage of Duncan Turner and Agnes since birth marriages Death did`nt register till 1855...

by the way,John Turner is my gt grandfather!

kind regards.
Linda.

1871 Census...Dugald is a farm servant for John Gourlay in Invercharlan...cant locate Donald

Duncan snr is a widower and still in Kinachreggan with John and Duncan

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Name: John Turner
Spouse's Name: Agnes Mcfarlane
Event Date: 04 Jun 1858
Event Place: Luss,Dunbarton,Scotland
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11499-1 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 6035516

Name: Dugald Turner
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birthplace: Dumbarton
Registration District: Luss
County: Dunbartonshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1853
GS Film number: 203551

Name: Dugald Turner
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 11 May 1852
Christening Place: LUSS,DUNBARTON,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Duncan Turner
Mother's Name: Agness Macfarlane
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11499-4 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 1041998