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2 Oct 2014 16:43 |
Mary born 1823 married joseph peart in Ledbury. I cant seem to find Marys parents, I think she was born in Tweksbury in 1821. any help would be more than welcome Thanks John
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Chris Ho :)
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2 Oct 2014 16:48 |
Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ Castle Mary Ann Ledbury 26 321 Peirt Joseph Ledbury 26 321
(above for reference, do you have the Cert?)
Chris :)
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 16:50 |
Either she was born in 1821 or 1823????? which is it please?
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2 Oct 2014 16:50 |
Mary born 1823 so who was born 1821 ?
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2 Oct 2014 16:57 |
1851 (Find My Past) Joseph Pyhart Head Married Male 32 1819 Ag Labourer Staunton, Worcestershire, England Mary Ann Pyhart Wife Married Female 27 1824 Wife Gloucestershire, England House namePart Of Webbs House Parish Much Marcle County Herefordshire Registration district Ledbury Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1975 Folio 420 Page 21
(is it above couple?)
(on Ancestry as Joseph Nyhart)
Chris :)
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KathleenBell
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2 Oct 2014 16:58 |
Could this be the couple in the 1851 census with name spelt differently? :-
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Pyhart Head Married Male 32 1819 Ag Labourer Staunton, Worcestershire, England Mary Ann Pyhart Wife Married Female 27 1824 Wife Gloucestershire, England
Address:- Part of Webbs House, Much Marcle, Ledbury, Herefordshire, England
Kath. x
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 16:59 |
Can't find either on the census so must be mistranscribed?
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John
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2 Oct 2014 17:02 |
I think she was born 1823. and she married joseph peirt in Ledbury, that's all I can find out sorry
John :-(
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 17:02 |
1851 England Census about Joseph Nyhart Name: Joseph Nyhart Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Nyhart Gender: Male Where born: Staunton, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Much Marcle Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Ledbury Sub-registration district: Ledbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Piece: 1975 Folio: 420 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Nyhart 32 1819 Staunton, Worcestershire, Mary Ann Nyhart 27 1824 Dewsbury, Gloucestershire
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 17:11 |
1861 England Census about Mary A Peart Name: Mary A Peart Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: 1825 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Peart Gender: Female Where born: Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Much Marcle County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Ledbury Sub-registration district: Yarkhill ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Piece: 1811 Folio: 90 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Peart 43 Mary A Peart 36 George Peart 9 Thomas Peart 7 James Peart 5 Emma Peart 4 William Peart 2 Samuel Peart 3/12
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Chris Ho :)
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2 Oct 2014 17:13 |
1861 (Find My Past) Joseph Peart Head Married Male 43 1818 Agricultural Labourer Staunton, Worcestershire, England Mary A Peart Wife Married Female 36 1825 - Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England George Peart Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Thomas Peart Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England James Peart Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Emma Peart Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England William Peart Son - Male 2 1859 - Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Samuel Peart Son - Male 0 1861 - Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Street Marcle Street Parish Much Marcle Registration district Ledbury Enumeration district 8 Piece number 1811 Folio number 90 Page number 2
(quite a few children, have you had a look in 'Search All Member Trees', (top right of page, under 'Search', might be somebody sharing!)
Chris :)
(apologies Mel!)
Marriage Cert. is needed, if you don't have!)
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 17:19 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Joseph Peart Name: Joseph Peart Registration Year: 1865 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Ledbury Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Herefordshire Volume: 6a Page: 264
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2 Oct 2014 17:21 |
Is this her ?
Name: Mary Ann Castle
Baptism Date: 11 Dec 1825
Baptism Place: Tewkesbury,Gloucester,England
Father: William Castle
Mother: Phebe
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 17:25 |
1871 England Census about Mary Peart Name: Mary Peart Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Much Marcle Ecclesiastical parish: Ross Town: Much Marcle County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Registration district: Ledbury Sub-registration district: Yarkhill ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 41 Piece: 2684 Folio: 20 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Mary Peart 45 George Peart 19 Thomas Peart 17 James Peart 15 Emma Peart 13 William Peart 12 Alice Peart 7 Louisa Peart 5
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 17:28 |
On that 1871 census I put up it says that Mary Ann Peart is Nearly blind from birth and so is son George.
Edit so is son Willliam on the 1871.
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2 Oct 2014 17:30 |
???
1841
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
William Castle 46 - Farmer - surrey Phoebe Castle 43 - surrey Phebe Holterm 29
Does Mary's marriage cert have her father as William, a farmer ?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 18:09 |
1881 England Census about Mary Peart Name: Mary Peart Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Female Where born: Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Much Marcle County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address: Marcle Street Marital Status: Windower (Widower) Education:
Occupation: Pauper ************ Registration district: Ledbury Sub-registration district: Yarkhill ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2583 Folio: 89 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Mary Peart 55 Partially blind George Peart 29 Partially blind Louisa Peart 15
1891 England Census about Mary Peart Name: Mary Peart Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Fewexbury, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Much Marcle Ecclesiastical parish: Much Marcle Town: Much Marcle County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Ledbury Sub-registration district: Yarkhill ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2053 Folio: 87 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Mary Peart 65 Cataract from birth George Peart 39 Cataract from birth Louisa Peart 25
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Oct 2014 18:22 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Louisa Peart Name: Louisa Peart Gender: Female Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1865 Baptism Place: Much Marcle,Hereford,England Father: Joseph Peart Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 1041613
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Louisa Peart Name: Louisa Peart Registration Year: 1893 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Ledbury Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Herefordshire Volume: 6a Page: 880 Records on Page: Name
Harriett Buffen Frederick Malpas Louisa Peart**************** Samuel Sturge *****************
1901 England Census about Louisa Sturge Name: Louisa Sturge Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Samuel Sturge Birth Place: Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Ledbury Ecclesiastical parish: Ledbury St Michael Town: Ledbury County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Ledbury Sub-registration District: Ledbury ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2470 Folio: 105 Page Number: 7 Household schedule number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Sturge 36 Louisa Sturge 34 Glady Sturge 6 Rose Sturge 4 Charles Sturge 3 Bertha Sturge 1 George Peart 49*****BROTHER IN LAW
1911 England Census about Louisa Sturge Name: Louisa Sturge Age in 1911: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Little Marcle Aylton County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address: Bargains Cottage, Ledbury, Little Marcle Marital Status: Married Years Married: 18 Estimated Marriage Year: 1893 Registration district: Ledbury Registration District Number: 335 Sub-registration district: Yarkhill ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 23 Piece: 15625 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Sturge 47 Louisa Sturge 45 Charles Sturge 13 Bertha Sturge 11 Francis Sturge 5
Had 6 children 4 living and 2 had died.
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JoonieCloonie
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2 Oct 2014 21:37 |
re that 1841 census
William Castle 46 - Farmer - surrey Phoebe Castle 43 - surrey Phebe Holterm 29
it's hard to say whether Phoebe Holtum is really part of that household (she's on the next page)
but it might be interesting to note someone else also on the next page
Thomas Castle aged 30, born in county, leather dresser Mary Castle, aged 35, born in county (Surrey)
seems a little old to be a son and a little young to be a brother, but if that couple did turn out to be Mary Ann's parents, Thomas could be worth looking at
I tend to think that her being born in Tewkesbury and her parents being farmers in Surrey 20 years later is a little unlikely but you never know :-)
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3 Oct 2014 03:23 |
this is possibly interesting ... it's the Peart side of the family but it is a Worcester - Bermondsey connection
1861
Name: Joseph Peart Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Louiza Peart Where born: Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey County/Island: Surrey Registration district: Bermondsey
Joseph Peart 40 Labourer in the Tower? Louiza Peart 36 Thomas Peart 2 Priscilla Peart 6
obviously not a brother because they are same age and same name :-)
and in 1851, the only Castle in the census who was born in Tewkesbury is also in Surrey (she is in Battersea in 1861)
Name: Mary A Castle Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797 Relation: Head Where born: Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Clapham County/Island: Surrey Registration district: Wandsworth
there is one other Castle in Clapham, Case? (Ancy says Carr, but no) Castle aged 9, a pupil at an unidentified private school it seems ... no, also another, perhaps his mother, Susan Castle by marriage, 29, wife of a butler who is not in residence, with infant son ... perhaps her husband was Maryann 1797's son ...
I agree that we should know what is on Mary Ann's marriage certificate about her father, definitely before anything else can be said or done
I just happen to have Castle ancestors from not a million miles away in Wiltshire :-)
in 1841 (barring mistranscriptions and excepting spelling variants) there were only 50 Castles in Wiltshire 155 Castles in Gloucestershire (and 40 Castles in Worcestershire) and 29 Castles in Bermondsey
so ... you never know!
that Mary Ann baptism in Tewkesbury is the only baptism showing to those parents at familysearch ... so perhaps other children, other places it doesn't have records for ...
possible ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJV9-7J2
Name: William Henry Castle Spouse's Name: Phoebe Townsend Event Date: 26 Jan 1819 Event Place: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00066-5
and 5 other Castle marriages in Whitechapel 1813-1827
the 1841 William and Phoebe are still in Bermondsey in 1851, he is a journeyman tanner
Deaths Dec 1858 ? CASTLE William Henry Bermondsey 1d 81
Phoebe is still in Bermondsey in 1861
ps - this death is *not* that Phoebe, this one was in Much Marcle in 1861/71
Deaths Dec 1878 CASTLE Phoebe 87 Ledbury 6a 330
I think the Phoebe married to William must have died in Dartford ... just before the census of course ...
Deaths Mar 1871 Castle Phoebe 72 Dartford 2a 227
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