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SylviaInCanada
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4 Oct 2014 00:32 |
Actually, the name change is very simple to explain ..................
he went back to his birth name Constable, after having lived as Wickenden when with his stepfather and mother :-)
and you have never needed to change your name by Deed Poll ................ it is quite sufficient to announce to those who need to know that "from henceforth I, John Smith, will be known as John Quatrefiles"
I often used to see such announcements in the local paper back in the 1950s and 1960s .............. and even that is unnecessary as long as banks, and others know the name change.
That is, of course, as long as you are not changing your name for a nefarious purpose :-)
In John Wickenden's case, he did what we see so often ..........
......... a child born before a marriage, whether illegitimately or to a previous husband, but growing up with the current step-father's surname, will change back to the birth surname as soon as possible, or when it is realised.
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4 Oct 2014 00:26 |
Joanna ..............
why don't you post the census instead of making us all go and hunt for the information ourselves?
it's easy to C&P, and it is allowed to be done on here ......... we did get that clarified some years ago.
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Joanna
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3 Oct 2014 21:58 |
I find James Constable and Elizabeth Constable in Sevenoaks in 1881 with 1 son and 4 daughters. Birth town is ‘Sevenoaks Weald’.
Naomi Wickenden is the ‘Mother’ of the ‘Head of the Household’ who is James Constable.
In 1841 the Wickendens are living in the same house as the Kenswoods. There are James and Naomi Wickenden with their children James, Elizabeth, Francis and William listed as Wickenden.
In 1851 the Wickendens are James, Naomi, with Elizabeth, Francis, William, Mary, Sophia and Sarah as their children.
In 1861 the Wickendens are James, Naomi, with William, Mary Ann, Sarah Ann, Eliza and Harriett as their children.
In 1871 Naomi Wickenden is living as ‘Mother’ to the ‘Head of the Household’ with James and Elizabeth Constable and their children Edwin J and Annie, along with James’s sister Eliza Wickenden.
The records listed online only go back as far as September 1837 and James Wickenden junior (also known as Constable) was born in either 1831 or 1834 (dependent on which census you are looking at).
James Constable dies in the qtr of Dec 1884 aged 53.
James Wickenden marries in 1950 to either: • Rose Gaffney • Mary Ann Boakes • Elizabeth Millbourn (There is a Rose Wickenden and an Elizabeth Wickenden who show as Deaths between 1850 (the year James Wickenden appears to marry first – he has left the family home before 1951 census) and 1866 when he marries again as a widower.)
At some stage after 1950 when he marries first James Wickenden becomes James Constable. This is the mystery!!
Changing your name by deeds poll started from 1851!! Does this mean that he changed his name simply because he wanted to?? Not listed online, the indexes are listed at Kew.
James Read (b. c1791) and Ann Read (b. c1796) are Elizabeth’s parents. She has James, Samuel, George, Elenor, Lucy, Edwin and Emily as siblings on the 1841 census.
In 1851 Elizabeth Read is living with her brother James Job Read and his wife and children in Malling district.
In 1861 Elizabeth Read is living with her brother Samuel Read who has become a widower and they are living with his children.
At some stage after 1850 when he marries first, James Wickenden becomes James Constable. This is the mystery!!
Changing your name by deeds poll started from 1851!! Does this mean that he changed his name simply because he wanted to?? Not listed online, the indexes are listed at Kew.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ says the following: 5.1 Deeds poll 1851-2003 Visit The National Archives in Kew and consult the indexes to enrolled deeds poll. The indexes cannot be searched online. For 1851 to 1903 first consult the indexes in C 275 - they show only the former name. This will enable you to access the relevant document in C 54. Indexes and the enrollment books for 1903 to 2003 are in J 18. The indexes show both the former and the new name, either as a note or a cross-reference. Indexes from 1945 to 2003 can be consulted freely, but you will need to register as a reader if you want to: consult indexes from before 1945 view the original deed poll and/or purchase a certified copy If you cannot visit in person, our website explains how you can pay for someone to do research for you.
Hope that helps - I do believe this explains the change of surname between 1850 and 1851.
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Oct 2014 04:58 |
I think Emily Mary then went back to Constable for her surname!!!
Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%) Constable Emily Mary Sevenoaks 2a 852 WARRINER Charles Botten Sevenoaks 2a 852
1881 Census
Name: Emily Wariner Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Charles Wariner Gender: Female Where born: East Grinstead, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Godstone County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: No 21 Block Cottage Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Godstone Sub-registration district: Godstone ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 804 Folio: 104 Page Number: 5
Charles Wariner 44 b.ca 1837, Brenchly, Kent, Journeyman Blacksmith Emily Wariner 24 Emily Wariner 1
1891 Census
Name: Emily Mary Warrener Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Warrener Gender: Female Where born: East Grinstead, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Godstone Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist Town: Blindley Heath County/Island: Surrey Country: England
Registration district: Godstone Sub-registration district: Godstone ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 583 Folio: 49 Page Number: 17
Charles Warrener 54 Costermonger (Hawker) Emily Mary Warrener 35 Emily Warrener 11 Albert Warrener 9 Lily Warrener 6 Green Warrener 3 William Warrener 1
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Oct 2014 04:37 |
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Emily in 1871
1871 Census
Name: Emily Wickenden Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: East Grinstead, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Chevening Ecclesiastical parish: Ide Hill St Mary County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Shoreham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 87 Piece: 921 Folio: 152 Page Number: 21
W H Alex Farmer 33 Farmer of 50 acres Eliza Farmer 23 John E Farmer 3 Emily Wickenden 14
Address:- Old House Farm
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Mary Emily Wickenden
Name: Mary Emily Wickenden Gender: Female Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1858 Baptism Place: East Grinstead,Sussex,England Father: James Wickenden Mother: Martha FHL Film Number: 0919114-115, 0416752
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Oct 2014 04:31 |
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1861 Census
Name: James Wickenden Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Wickenden Gender: Male Where born: Penshurst, Kent, England Civil Parish: Sevenoaks County/Island: Kent Country: England
Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Sevenoaks ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Piece: 488 Folio: 112 Page Number: 2
James Wickenden 27 Ag Lab Martha Wickenden 21 b.ca 1840, Godstone, Surrey Emily M Wickenden 3 b.ca 1858, East Grinstead, Sussex
Address:- Sevenoaks Weald
Living next door are James Wickenden and Naomi, with children William, Mary Ann, Sarah Ann, Eliza Wickenden and Harriet Wickenden
Deaths Dec 1864 (>99%) WICKENDEN Martha Sevenoaks 2a 273
Seveoaks is the registration district that includes Penshurst
Marriages Sep 1857 (>99%)
Payne Martha E. Grinstead 2b 145 Wickenden James E.Grinstead 2b 145
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: James Wickenden Spouse's Name: Martha Payne Event Date: 16 Aug 1857 Event Place: East Grinstead,Sussex,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M07056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0919114-115, 0416752
Births Jun 1858 (>99%) Wickenden Emily Mary E. Grinstead 2b 93
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1 Oct 2014 22:01 |
Name: James Constable Gender: Male Christening Date: 1834 Christening Place: PENSHURST, BISHOP TRANSCRIPTION'S, KENT, ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Naomi Constable Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16542-1 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1469439 Reference ID: - 2:2FLDRKX
Citing this Record: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J9V6-FWP : accessed 01 Oct 2014), James Constable, 1834; citing Penshurst, Kent, England, reference - 2:2FLDRKX; FHL microfilm 1469439.
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Doloris
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1 Oct 2014 21:53 |
Thankyou so much I will look through this, now I know for sure Naomi was a Constable!
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1 Oct 2014 21:28 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Parsonage, Sevenoaks Weald, Sevenoaks, Kent, England Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Wickenden Head Married Male 56 1805 Agricultural Labourer Sevenoaks, Kent, England Transcription Naomi Wickenden Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Loose, Kent, England Transcription William Wickenden Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Agricultural Labourer Sundridge, Kent, England Transcription Mary Ann Wickenden Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 - Sundridge, Kent, England Transcription Sarah Ann Wickenden Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Sundridge, Kent, England Transcription Eliza Wickenden Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Sundridge, Kent, England Transcription Harriet Wickenden Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Sundridge, Kent, England
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AnnCardiff
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1 Oct 2014 21:23 |
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Name: James Constable Gender: Male Christening Date: 1834 Christening Place: PENSHURST, BISHOP TRANSCRIPTION'S, KENT, ENGLAND Mother's Name: Naomi Constable Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16542-1 , System Origin: England-VR , GS Film number: 1469439 , Reference ID: - 2:2FLDRKX
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1 Oct 2014 21:22 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hanging Bank, Sundridge, Sevenoaks, Kent, England Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Wickenden Head Married Male 46 1805 Ag Lab Sevenoaks, Kent, England Transcription Naomi Wickenden Wife Married Female 37 1814 Wife Kent, England Transcription Elizabeth Wickenden Daughter - Female 14 1837 - Chiddingstone, Kent, England Transcription Frances Wickenden Daughter - Female 13 1838 Scholar Chiddingstone, Kent, England Transcription William Wickenden Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Sundridge, Kent, England Transcription Mary Wickenden Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Sundridge, Kent, England Transcription Sophia Wickenden Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Sundridge, Kent, England Transcription Sarah Wickenden Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Sundridge, Kent, England
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AnnCardiff
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1 Oct 2014 21:19 |
Name: Annie Constable Gender: Female Christening Date: 12 Jun 1870 Christening Place: SEVENOAKS WEALD, KENT, ENGLAND Father's Name: James Constable Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13392-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1469563
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1 Oct 2014 21:18 |
Name: Lucy Constable Gender: Female Christening Date: 26 Sep 1875 Christening Place: SEVENOAKS WEALD, KENT, ENGLAND Father's Name: James Constable Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13392-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1469563
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1 Oct 2014 21:18 |
Name: Rosaline Constable Gender: Female Christening Date: 09 Jun 1872 Christening Place: SEVENOAKS WEALD, KENT, ENGLAND Father's Name: James Constable Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13392-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1469563
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1 Oct 2014 21:17 |
Name: James Wickenden Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 15 Jun 1834 Event Place: Chiddingstone, Kent, England Gender: Male Age: Marital Status: Single Birth Year (Estimated): Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Name: Naomi Constable Spouse's Age: Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Volume: GS Film Number: 001866648 Digital Folder Number: 004995132 Image Number: 00832
Citing this Record: "England, Kent, Parish Registers, 1538-1911", index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QJDL-W9NQ : accessed 01 Oct 2014), James Wickenden and Naomi Constable, 1834.
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AnnCardiff
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1 Oct 2014 21:15 |
Name: Naomi Wickenden Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1962 Registration District: Sittingbourne County: Kent Event Place: Sittingbourne, Kent, England Age (available after 1866): 80 Birth Year (Estimated): 1882 Volume: 5B Page: 639 Line Number: 123
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AnnCardiff
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1 Oct 2014 21:15 |
Name: Naomi Wickenden Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1946 Registration District: Bromley County: Kent Event Place: Bromley, Kent, England Age (available after 1866): 71 Birth Year (Estimated): 1875 Volume: 2A Page: 1230 Line Number: 46
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AnnCardiff
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1 Oct 2014 21:14 |
Name: Naomi Wickenden Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1882 Registration District: Sevenoaks County: Kent Event Place: Sevenoaks, Kent, England Age (available after 1866): 75 Birth Year (Estimated): 1807 Volume: 2A Page: 342 Line Number: 250
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AnnCardiff
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1 Oct 2014 21:14 |
Name: Florence Matilda Wickenden Event Type: Christening Event Date: 30 Jul 1848 Event Place: East Wickham, Kent, England Father's Name: Benjamin Wickenden Mother's Name: Naomi Wickenden Volume: 5 GS Film Number: 000992529 , Digital Folder Number: 004989845 , Image Number: 00045
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AnnCardiff
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1 Oct 2014 21:13 |
Name: William Wickenden Event Type: Christening Event Date: 21 Apr 1840 Event Place: Sundridge, Kent, England Gender: Male Father's Name: James Wickenden Mother's Name: Naomi Wickenden GS Film Number: 001473695 , Digital Folder Number: 004990982 , Image Number: 00093
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