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Sylann

Sylann Report 2 Oct 2014 18:55

Ok Thank you

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Oct 2014 18:35

Not free, but you could try the 1915 Valuation Rolls on Scotlandspeople.

Andy

Sylann

Sylann Report 2 Oct 2014 18:10

Is their anyway of finding out who lived on Gorgie Cottages Edinburgh in 1911
without wasting any more credits

I've found George Wight ,wife Marion and 5 children living at 2 Gorgie Cottage
also Marions mother Christina died in 1918 Gorgie Cottages but no number given
It appears the family were there for some years as George Wight and wife Marion Died there 1950 & 1965

Marions parents were George Watt b 1855 and Christina Watt nee Christina Plummer Armstrongb 1858 I can't find them in 1911 so was wondering if they were in Gorgie Cottages

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Oct 2014 21:56

Thanks for letting us know Sylann. So often details on marriage registrations are a wee bit of a coverup. OHs grandfather gave fictional details for his Dad on his first marriage and nothing on his second. In fact his birth registration had an RCE ( Register of Corrected Entries) reference naming his father - with a completely different surname! If you look up George's birth, check if there is an RCE naming his father. Sometimes the mother went to Court to have paternity proved and this would be recorded in the RCE on the birth register.

Sylann

Sylann Report 1 Oct 2014 19:40

Just to let you know I've got the death certificate of George Wight

1950 aged 77 of 2 Gorgie Cottages Edinburgh, Nothing down for father but mother Lydia Aitkin/Aitken Wight

His wife died at the same address 1965 and their daughter was present Marion Adamson which I didn't know about she was living at 6 Gorgie Cottages Edinburgh

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Oct 2014 16:52

Of course, none of this helps find out what happened to George.

Have you found his wife in 1911 please? Did she re-marry? If so when? That may help narrow a possible date of death for George.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Oct 2014 16:49

Well if we are right, his Great Grandmother died after Statutory registration began so hopefully the informant knew her parents names.

1861

Name: Lydia Middlemas
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinr, edinburghsh
Registration Number: 677
Registration district: Colinton
Civil Parish: Colinton
County: Midlothian
Address: Hailes Village
Occupation: Quarry Carter
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 62
LINE: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_122
Household Members:
Name Age
Lydia Middlemas 63
Lydia Wright 15
Thomas Middlemas 24
Thomas Hume 13


Not seeing a birth for James or an earlier marriage for his mother, so perhaps he just knew his father was a Mr. Wight and kept his name.

Potty

Potty Report 1 Oct 2014 16:41

rootgatherer, I was thinking the same about George giving his grandfather as his father on the marriage cert.

Sylann

Sylann Report 1 Oct 2014 16:35

Thank you for your help

I think I'm going to have to get some more certificates see if George is illegitimate
It's looking as though your right

Potty

Potty Report 1 Oct 2014 16:35

A possible for George in 1891 - the POB for his grandfather is the same as for the James posted in the 1871:


1891 Scotland Census
James Wight

Age:68
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1823
Relationship:Head
Where born:Currie, Carluke

Civil Parish:Edinburgh St Cuthberts

County:Midlothian

Address:8 Gorgie Cotts

Occupation:Carter

James Wight 68
Elizabeth Wight 30 daughter
George Wight 18 grandson
Janes Wight 5 grandson
Agnes Wight 3 granddaughter
Thomas Henderson 25 Wk


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Oct 2014 16:34

1841

Name: James Wight
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland
Civil Parish: Colinton
County: Midlothian
Address: Hailes Quarry
Occupation: Carter Ag Lab
Parish Number: 677
Household Members:
Name Age
John Middlemas 40
Liddie Middlemas 40
James Wight 15
George Middlemas 10
John Middlemas 6
Elizabeth Wright 15
Liddie Middlemas 8


Name: John Middlemas
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 17 Jul 1827
Marriage Place: Colinton,Midlothian,Scotland
Father: George Middlemas
Spouse: Lydia Aiken
FHL Film Number: 1066672

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Oct 2014 16:21

1891

Name: Lydia Aitchison
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Charles Aitchison
Gender: Female
Where born: Colinton
Registration Number: 685A/2
Registration district: St George Burgh
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 79 Dundee St
ED: 115
Household schedule number: 25
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_339
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Aitchison 35
Lydia Aitchison 36
Charles Aitchison 10
Wm Aitchison 8
Jas Aitchison 6
Robert Aitchison 4
John Aitchison 3


1901

Name: Lydia Aitchison
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Chas Aitchison
Gender: Female
Where born: Colinton, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Michael
County: Midlothian
Address: 79 Dundee St
ED: 115
Household schedule number: 29
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_368
Household Members:
Name Age
Chas Aitchison 48
Lydia Aitchison 53
Wm Aitchison 18
Jas Aitchison 16
Robt Aitchison 14
John Aitchison 12

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Oct 2014 16:18

Name: George Wight
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1873
Birth Place: Colinton,Midlothian,Scotland
Mother: Lydia Wight
FHL Film Number: 6035516


Name: Lydia Aitken Wight
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 3 Mar 1847
Baptism Date: 14 Mar 1847
Baptism Place: , Colinton, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: James Wight
Mother: Beatrice Douglas
FHL Film Number: 1066672
Reference ID: 2:181WG9N


Name: Lydia Aitchison
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Charles Aitchison
Gender: Female
Where born: Colinton, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: St George
County: Midlothian
Address: Gorgie Cottages
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 120
LINE: 18
Roll: cssct1881_279
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Aitchison 26
Lydia Aitchison 29
Charles Aitchison 3 Mo
George Wright 8


Do you think he may have been the illegitimate son of Lydia and gave his grandfather's name as his father and his mother's name as Lydia Wight maiden surname Aitken (her middle name) when he married just to save face?

Sylann

Sylann Report 1 Oct 2014 16:12

The address on the marriage certificate is 13 Wardlaw Place But that is for the bride The Houndslow Barracks is for the groom
I saw that census but with the wife being Beatrice
On the Marriage it has Contractor Carter for James so if this is them why has it got Lydia as the mother??

Sylann

Sylann Report 1 Oct 2014 16:02

Thanks Andy

Service date 1899-1902 that is when he was in South Africa ?
Just wondering when he came out of the army

George was 22 on his marriage certificate

Potty

Potty Report 1 Oct 2014 16:00

Does he give his father's occupation on the marriage cert and his address at the time. This family looks as if it might be connected - there is a birth in 1873 for a George Wight, Mother Lydia Wight - no father mentioned:


1871 Scotland Census
James Wight
Age:45
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1826
Relationship:Head
Spouse's name :Beatrice Wight
Gender:Male
Where born:Currie, Edinburgh
Registration Number:677
Registration district:Colinton
Civil Parish:Colinton
County:Midlothian
Address:Slateford
Occupation:Carter

James Wight 45
Beatrice Wight 46
Lydia Aitken Wight 20
George Wight 18
Beatrice Wight 15
Elizabeth Wight 13


Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Oct 2014 15:55


UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
about G Wight


Name:G Wight
Campaign or Service:South Africa - Second Boer War
Service Date:1899-1902
Service Location:South Africa
Regiment or Unit Name:Royal Scots Greys
Regimental Number:4034

Andy

Potty

Potty Report 1 Oct 2014 15:46

No marriage coming up for his parents in England or Wales.

Potty

Potty Report 1 Oct 2014 15:43

Sylann, Is his age on the marriage cert?

Sylann

Sylann Report 1 Oct 2014 15:36

On his Marriage certificate its spelt like that and on the birth certificate of his son
Not sure where he was born I thought England with him being stationed in Middlesex?? his Father was James his mother was Lydia nee Aitkins

When his son James was married in 1919 his father was down as a Volcaniser

His wife was Scottish, and they were living in scotland in 1919