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And this looks like the man missing from the ship


Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980


Name:Otto Ludwig Vetter

Gender:Male

Electoral Year:1916

State:Western Australia

District:Perth

Subdistrict:Perth



Edit: Forget that, this man seems to be ER after ship incident

Good find Chris- at 89 the age could fit.

Edit: Just found another article relating- his full name was Otto Vetter. So not him :(

(on image, Missing at sea between 12th & 15th Jan 1938 on passage between Fremantle and Geraldton)

Official Number of Ship 162391

Chris :)

edits

Geraldton Guardian and Express (WA : 1929 - 1947) Thursday 13 January 1938

TRAGEDY FEARED
SHIP'S PASSENGER MISSING DISAPPEARANCE FROM MOTOR VESSEL GORGON
Reported missing shortly before the motor vessel Gorgon reached port this morning, a man named O. Vetter, who was travelling second class on the ship from - Fremantle to Geraldton, is believed to have been lost overboard. Stated to be 89...

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(quite a lengthy article, worth a read!)

http://tinyurl.com/q25bwew

Thought I'd put this up just incase.

First name(s) O
Last name Vetter
Gender Unknown
Birth year -
Death year 1938
Death date Feb 1938
Reported date 1938
Vessel name Gorgon
Departure port -
Series BT 334
Box 0095
Record set Deaths at sea, 1781-1968

or I wonder, with the onset of war if Oscar changed his surname?

Dear Rambling Rose
I have not heard if Oscar was interned during WW1. I do know that my Grandfather Dimitri was interned at the beginning of WW2 but was later released as he had three English children and was married to a scottish lady. The authorities did not consider he was a threat to this country. It is just a mystery as to what happened to Oscar & Rosa. It is a pity that there is no one in the family who is alive to point me in the right direction. I will try looking through the death records in Germany.
Thank you. Karolyn

Name: Dimitri Richard A Vetter
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1884
Date of Registration: Sep 1974
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 13
Page: 1597


edit which I see you have on your tree on Ancestry anyway.

Not seeing any death for Oscar or Rosa though, or travel records.

I wonder if he might have been interned during WW1? or returned to Germany beforehand?

Name: Richard Dimitri Alfred Vetter ( artist)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 28
Spouse: Louise Cole
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jan 1912
Parish: Holy Trinity, Tulse Hill
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Frederick William (Wilhelm on image) Oscar Vetter .....Gentleman
Register Type: Parish Register

Louise Cole's father James Finlay Cole ...Comedian ( deceased)

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Cole Louise Vetter Lambeth 1d 399
Vetter Richard D A Cole Lambeth 1d 399


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14073125

HO 405 - Home Office: Aliens Department and successors: Aliens Personal Files, Applications for Naturalisation (ALP and IMP file series)

(above might relate to above)

Chris :)


UK, Naturalisation Certificates and Declarations, 1870-1912 (Ancestry)

(not sure if anything on above, could be another Surname!, 1901 Oscar Naturalised on image)

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
Cole Louise Vetter Lambeth 1d 399
Vetter Richard D A Cole Lambeth 1d 399

Just via Google found your post from 2011 on Ancestry message board, did you find out if this message refered to your RD Alfred Vetter?

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.vetter/327/mb.ashx

"Dear Karolyn

I have my mother's autograph book, stage name Billie Lipsett (somerimes spelt Lippsette) and one of the entries is a beautifully drawn picture of my mother from, I think, the show 'Orders is Orders' as she is depicted in uniform. It is signed by Dimitri Vetter' Margate and dated 1930. Do tou think this is your grandfather?"

1901 England Census about W E Oscar Vetter
Name: W E Oscar Vetter
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Oscar Vetter
Mother: Rosa Vetter
Birth Place: Leipzip, Germany
Civil Parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration District: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2701
Folio: 78
Page Number: 38
Household schedule number: 196
Household Members:
Name Age
Oscar Vetter 48
Rosa Vetter 44
W E Oscar Vetter 23
R D Alfred Vetter 17
C G Rosa Vetter 19

just for ref

1911 England Census about F W Oscar Vetter
Name: F W Oscar Vetter
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Berlin, Germany
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 118 Kennington Park Road S E
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration District Number: 25
Sub-registration district: Kennington
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 1993
Household Members:
Name Age
F W Oscar Vetter 59
Rosa Vetter 55
R D Alfred Vetter 27

Hi there,
I am looking for any information on F.W Oscar Vetter, his wife Rosa and their children. I know that the family were circus artistes and later Music Hall Artistes. F. W Oscar Vetter was born in Berlin, Germany in 1851. I am not sure when he joined the circus but I know that he married a lady called Rosa and had three children. F W was known as Oscar and he has an entry in Turners' Circus guide. I know that in 1911. Oscar was living in London and was about 59 years old. I cannot find a death certificate for either Oscar or Rosa in U.K records. Did they emigrate to another country perhaps? If anyone has information about this family, I would love to hear from you.
Thank you