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3 Dec 2014 09:46 |
Dianne, when you come back perhaps you could change the heading to something like Mary Ann Packman Unanswered
Your enquiry is showing as "ticked as answered" so other helpers may not come to our assistance.
We haven't, as yet found Mary Ann's parents or siblings. It may be that you will need to buy her marriage certificate to find her father's name.
I am not finding her on the 1841 census.
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3 Dec 2014 00:16 |
From freereg. Pity it doesn't give her father's name!
County Kent Place Chilham Church St Mary Tr RegisterNumber MarriageDate 26 Oct 1851 GroomForename Charles Ralph GroomSurname Hoar GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Mary Ann BrideSurname Packman BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename WitnessOneSurname WitnessTwoForename WitnessTwoSurname Notes FileNumber 2437
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3 Dec 2014 00:11 |
Maybe?
Name: Mary Ann Hoare Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 69 Registration district: East Ashford Inferred County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 588
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3 Dec 2014 00:05 |
1881
Name: Mary Ann Hoar Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Charles Hoar Gender: Female Where born: Chilham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Chilham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Mountain St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: East Ashford Sub registration district: Wye ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 952 Folio: 27 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hoar 65 Mary Ann Hoar 53 Sarah Elizabeth Hoar 22 Susan Hoar 20 Henry Fredk. Hoar 17 Rose Matilda Hoar 14 Charles Hoar 12 Walter John Hoar 9 Pilcher George Ditcher 33 Stephen Cloke 25
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Name: Mary A Hoar Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Hoar Gender: Female Where born: Chilham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Chilham Ecclesiastical parish: Chilham Town: Monkton County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: East Ashford Sub registration district: Wye ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 703 Folio: 98 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hoar 73 Mary A Hoar 63 Walter I Hoar 19
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3 Dec 2014 00:03 |
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Name: Mary Hore [Mary Hoare] [Mary Hoar] [Mary Hoar] Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Hore Gender: Female Where born: Chilham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Chilham Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury Town: Monkton Street County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: East Ashford Sub-registration district: Wye ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 39 Piece: 963 Folio: 19 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hore 56 Mary Hore 43 William Hore 15 Henry F Hore 7 Chas Hore 2 Elizabeth Hore 22 Sarah Hore 12 Susannah Hore 10 Matilda Hore 4
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2 Dec 2014 23:55 |
The above census looks hopeful?
Marriage certificate would give Mary Ann's father's name and occupation.
Name: Charles Ralph Hoar Registration Year: 1851 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: East Ashford Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Kent Volume: 5 Page: 13
Records on Page: Name Thomas Beaney Mary Dale Charles Ralph Hoar Mary Ann Packham <<<<<<<<<< Emma Frances Philpot Joseph Thomas Redding William Rowland Stephens William Rowland Stevens Harriet Pullen Wills
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2 Dec 2014 23:52 |
Wonder if Mary Ann married?
1861
Eliza Hoar AGE: 12 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: 1849 RELATION: Daughter FATHER'S NAME: Charles Hoar MOTHER'S NAME: Mary Hoar GENDER: Female WHERE BORN: Willesborough, Kent, England CIVIL PARISH: Chilham COUNTY/ISLAND: Kent COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS:
OCCUPATION:
CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:
View image REGISTRATION DISTRICT: East Ashford SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Wye ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 9 NEIGHBORS: View others on page HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 100 PIECE: 516 FOLIO: 121 PAGE NUMBER: 20 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Charles Hoar 45 Mary Hoar 35 Eliza Hoar 12 Patient A Hoar 9 George Hoar 7 William Hoar 6 Sarah E Hoar 2 Susan Hoar 0
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2 Dec 2014 23:41 |
Right, forget the above. Looks like the Mary Anne baptised in Chilham in 1829 died.
Name: Mary Anne Packman Gender: Female Burial Date: 19 Jul 1829 Burial Place: Chilham, Kent, England Father: Richard Packman Mother: Elizabeth Packman FHL Film Number: 1786276 Reference ID: Page 0
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2 Dec 2014 23:36 |
Marriage
Name: Richard Packman Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1828 Marriage Place: Kent Spouse Name: Elizabeth Hadlow
Looking at the image, I think Richard was a widower and Elizabeth a single woman. The witnesses were Wm. Hadlow and John(?, sorry can't make out his surname)
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2 Dec 2014 23:29 |
Possible sibling for the Mary Anne born in Chilham
Name: John Packman Gender: Male Baptism Date: 2 Apr 1826 Baptism Place: Chilham, Kent, England Father: Richard Packman Mother: Elizabeth Packman FHL Film Number: 1786276 Reference ID: Page 0
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dianne
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2 Dec 2014 22:52 |
Thank you. I still don't really Know what the procedure is. I will give it another try.
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Cynthia
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2 Dec 2014 11:37 |
Hello Dianne,
To be honest, it's really easier for us if you stay by your computer and watch for replies as they can come back very quickly. If you notice, you received the first reply just 5 minutes after you had posted your query.
To go any further back, you can have a look at the free site which AnnCardiff has used.......freesearch.org
It's also useful to google family names and places to see where records are held.
Hope this helps.
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dianne
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1 Dec 2014 22:46 |
Thank you for the information on Mary Ann Packman 1849 My great grandmother is Eliza Packman. Can you go any further back Please.
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Cynthia
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22 Sep 2014 13:32 |
Hello Dianne and welcome to the Community boards.
(I'll let Dianne know how to find her replies) :-)
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Chris Ho :)
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21 Sep 2014 21:39 |
Baptism First name(s) William Frederick Last name Packman Baptism year 1867 Baptism day 13 Baptism Month Feb Relationship Son of Father's first name(s) Mother's first name(s) Susanna Residence East Ashford Union Notes S.Woman Place Willesborough County Kent Record source Willesborough baptisms 1538-1911
Baptism First name(s) Eliza Last name Packman Baptism year 1849 Baptism day 11 Baptism Month Mar Relationship Daughter of Father's first name(s) Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann Residence E. A. Union Workhouse Notes S.Woman Place Willesborough
(just her and other for Willesborough (Find My Past)
Chris :)
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21 Sep 2014 20:45 |
Different birth place for the Mary Ann who married Robert Harris?
1861
Name: Mary Ann Harris Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: 1825 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robt Harris Gender: Female Where born: Boughton, Kent, England Civil Parish: Seasalter Town: Whitstable County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Blean Sub-registration district: Whitstable ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Piece: 524 Folio: 111 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Robt Harris 37 Mary Ann Harris 36 Ann Maria Harris 16 Roseana Harris 12 Alf John Harris 9 Julia Harris 7 Fredk Harris 4
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21 Sep 2014 19:30 |
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Name: Robert Stephen Harris Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Packman Event Date: 12 Oct 1856 Event Place: Hernhill, Kent, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01257-9 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1836276 , Reference ID: items 1-13
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21 Sep 2014 19:28 |
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Name: Mary Ann Packman Gender: Female Christening Date: 29 Jan 1826 Christening Place: Hernhill, Kent, England Father's Name: George Packman Mother's Name: Hannah Packman Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00888-6 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1786549
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21 Sep 2014 19:24 |
Name: Eliza Packman Gender: Female Christening Date: 11 Mar 1849 Christening Place: Willesborough, Kent, England Mother's Name: Mary Ann Packman Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04778-5 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1835834 , Reference ID: item 1 p 75 no 600
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21 Sep 2014 19:07 |
Perhaps she was unsure of her birth year? Or she was baptised a wee while after her birth?
Name: Mary Anne Packman Gender: Female Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1829 Baptism Place: Chilham,Kent,England Father: Richard Packman Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 924168
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