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NZ Marriage look up please

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Margaret

Margaret Report 14 Sep 2014 03:18

Thanks yes I have the cenotaph information. I just want to make sure I have the right Liet. Evans as it is a common name. I used their search to work out which one as I know he died after this date but before the end of the war. This is the one that fitted all I knew as far as I could find. I have info, numbers and photos of 7 other relatives etc who are not in the index for the first 2 volumes of the Onward project so I am trying to get it all together to send the photos in for vol 3 due out for the centennial. They are trying to get photos of all the WW 1 people so an historic record, I only heard about it from my cousin who I am doing some family tree work with, she has done the great uncle whose photo I gave her last year.
There is someone who is currently overseas who might be able to check it so will wait and ask her if I haven't resolved it first.

Persephone

Persephone Report 14 Sep 2014 02:24

Margaret both of them are on the Cenotaph database.. have you looked there?

Also their complete records can be downloaded from the NZ Archives.. those have every little injury and where they were at various times etc. Some of them are quite detailed. In some cases it tells who their service medals went to.

People are still able to claim with proof of relationship the service medals from the war.. they don't go looking for you, you have to approach them.. probably the Department of Internal Affairs.. they handled my parents war plaques for the cemetery.

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Sep 2014 23:54

Thanks I had not seen these records of my grandfather.

Persephone

Persephone Report 13 Sep 2014 23:41

Marie could be right that the best man may not necessarily have been one of the witnesses ...but... on all the marriage certs that I have seen for NZ the best man and the chief bridesmaid are....

Well they are in my family records.


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Sep 2014 23:24

Links to WW1 Service Records for men called Thomas Henry Jamieson

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE21027856

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE20642446

The best man would not necessarily have been one of the witnesses .....

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Sep 2014 21:40

So do you think I have enough information to say I have the correct person without confirmation from the marriage certificate? The other details suggest it as well, they were both from Wellington and worked in government etc.

Persephone

Persephone Report 13 Sep 2014 14:05

I saw that Chris where the papers said he was in the 35th.. but on the military database it has him with the 37th and Jamieson with the 36th..

Maybe they were with the 35th whilst back in NZ and then when Jamieson left
23 Apr 1918 he went with the 36th and then when Evans left 9 May 1918 he was with the 37th.


Persephone

Persephone Report 13 Sep 2014 13:40

He was a sergeant and then a second lieutenant according to his war record.

and his Next of Kin
Mrs S. Evans (mother), 115 Abel Smith Street, Wellington, New Zealand.

Died at Le Quesnoy, France
4 November 1918

He was born in Napier.

When he went back in 1918 he was with the 37th reinforcements B company

Poor bloke just getting killed a few days before the war ended.




Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Sep 2014 09:15

Thank you my grandfather was in the 36th and I know they both went back after he recruited more troops. I am pretty sure I have the right one but would like to be absolutely sure since it is a national record.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Sep 2014 08:52

PERSONAL.
Otago Daily Times, 9 December 1918

(a bit about him from a search of francis m evans on below)

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

Chris :)

WOMEN IN PRINT.
Evening Post, 28 November 1917

(above has him of the 35th Reinforcements, from a search, Irene Marley)

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Sep 2014 06:33


Thank you so much for taking the time to check this out for me. The other NZ marriage certificates that I have, the witnesses have clearly written initials or full christian names as well as surnames so I am hoping this one does too. I have a copy of her parents and my other grandparents just not this one.

jax

jax Report 13 Sep 2014 04:38

Not sure about access to marriage certs for NZ...would have thought you would need to purchase it to see any details

I found it here but they want 20$ for a print out

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3dmarriages#SearchResults


How can you be sure the best man signed the cert?

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Sep 2014 03:13

Thomas Henry Jamieson married Irene Pamela Marley on 20th November 1917 in Wellington New Zealand. I would like to confirm the best man's name from his signature if anyone has access to the marriage certificate. If I can confirm that he is Francis Meredith Evans he can be included in the Onward project photo book of WW1 service men (with the bridegroom, my grandfather) as he is in the wedding photo. I have his service record and it fits with what I know about the best man but would like to be sure before I send the photo for publishing in the book. He was Lieutenant Evans but I am unsure of his christian names, he died in the war sometime after this date. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks Margaret Hunt