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25 Aug 2014 20:50 |
Looking to find details of my grand mothers family Kate Higgerson (Nee Timmins) DOB 10/02/1904 Marriage 31/01/1931 to John henry Higgerson ST Andrews Bordsley Birmingham DOD 13/03/1998 Derby Father Thomas Timmins cable joiner ex navy Mother Catherine Timmins (nee Donaldson)? Kate's elder brother Thomas Timmins, younger brother Douglas Timmins Sisters Louie, Mary, Cannot find on 1911 census or earlier for the family any help gratefully received thanks in advance Richard Higgerson
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ArgyllGran
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25 Aug 2014 20:54 |
You'd be better to add this to the end of your previous thread about this family, Richard.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1343186?page=1
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25 Aug 2014 20:54 |
Parents marriage?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Donaldson Catherine Aston 6d 433 Timmins Thomas Aston 6d 433
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25 Aug 2014 21:04 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 58 Greenway ST, Aston, Warwickshire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Thomas Simmins Head Married Male 42 1869 Birmingham Cable Jointer Image Transcription Catherine Simmins Wife Married Female 37 1874 Hereford - Image Transcription Thomas Edward Simmins Son Single Male 11 1900 Bham - Image Transcription George Simmins Son Single Male 8 1903 Bham - Image Transcription Kate Simmins Daughter Single Female 7 1904 Bham - Image Transcription Ernest Simmins Son Single Male 3 1908 Bham -
married 12 years 7 children born 3 died
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Richard
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26 Aug 2014 06:27 |
Thank you, this sounds correct, could Simmons be the error of the scribe?,Timmins is recorded for Kate birth and marriage. How did you work this out? As you realize I am knew to this type of search for family records. Would I find the names as Timmins going back 10 yrs More important are you using valuable credits for this search I should send you some of mine. This is an excellent site with help from experienced members. I need to learn quickly to find myself. Many thanks for your help again. Did you see the photo did I correctly load up? Thanks Richard Higgerson age 54 yrs
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26 Aug 2014 06:40 |
Richard ......... I am not sure where safc got her transcript from ............. whether it was GR or FMP (FindMyPast)
This is the version that I found on ancestry
1911 Census
Name: Thomas Simmins Age in 1911: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Birmingham Civil Parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 58 Greenway St Marital Status: Married Occupation: Cable Jointer Registration district: Aston Registration District Number: 385 Sub-registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Piece: 18182
Thomas Simmins 42 Catherine Simmins 37 Thomas Edward Simmins 11 George Simmins 8 Hale Simmins 7 Ernest Simmins 3
Looking at the actual image it is indeed Timmins ................ but the transcriber had difficulty with it because it was a copper plat T, with scrolls, so looked rather like an S
However, the initial letter of Thomas is exactly the same.
I have sent in an amendment to ancestry for you
I found it by using the wild card * ................... * on ancestry, not sure about GR, stands for any number or unknown letters
I asked for Thomas *immins
and I will try that for the 1901.
As regarding your other question ...........................
those of us who help others have our own annual subscriptions to sites, and usually to sites other than GR.
It does not cost us any more money to do look ups for other people.
The only site where most people will not do look-ups for others is Scotland's People ............ that site does not have annual subscriptions, everyone has to buy credits.
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26 Aug 2014 06:57 |
I have a problem!!!
This Thomas on the 1901 really looks like yours ......
Name: Thomas Timmins Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Lodger Gender: Male Spouse: Jane Timmins Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Occupation: Spring Smith
BUT he's with a Jane, even though he supposedly married Catherine Donaldson in 1899, and I can't find an earlier marriage for Thomas to a Jane!
This is the full record for the 1901 ...............
1901 Census
Name: Thomas Timmins Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Lodger Gender: Male Spouse: Jane Timmins Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 61 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2861 Folio: 84 Page Number: 25 Household schedule number: 164
Fredrick G Wills 37 Emily Wills 38 Fredrick H Wills 10 Alfred Wills 8 Charles Wills 3 Frank Wills 10 Months >>>Thomas Timmins 32 >>>Jane Timmins 31 b.ca 1870, Lye, Worcestershire, Lodger's wife >>>Charles Timmins 10 b.ca 1891, Lye, Lodger's son >>>Margaret Timmins 8 b.ca 1893, Lye, Lodger's daughter Agnes Wells 6
EDIT:--- This is NOT your Thomas .............. see post below
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26 Aug 2014 07:02 |
fiddling around trying to sort out the problem!!!
This is Jane with the children in 1911, and she says she is a widow ................. which may or may not be true
I'll check if a Thomas Timmins died
1891 Census
Name: Jane Timmins Age in 1911: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation to Head: Mother Gender: Female Birth Place: Stourbridge, Worcester, England Civil Parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 9 Bk 283 Coventry Road Small Heath Birmingham Marital Status: Widowed Registration district: Aston Registration District Number: 385 Sub-registration district: Bordesley ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 18192
Charles Timmins 21 Jane Timmins 43 Margaret Timmins 19
YES, a Thomas Timmins of the right age died in 1909 ....... so this family is NOT yours, and yours is still hiding from us :-)
Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%) TIMMINS Thomas 40 Aston 6d 146
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26 Aug 2014 07:19 |
I'll let someone else try ............... I'm getting very tired!!!
I just cannot find them in 1901
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Andrew
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26 Aug 2014 10:38 |
Think this is 1901
1901 England Census about Thomas Timmers Name:Thomas Timmers Age:34 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Spouse:Kate Timmers Birth Place:Birmn, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish:Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish:St Stephen County/Island:Warwickshire Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district:Birmingham Sub-registration district:St George ED, institution, or vessel:29 Neighbors: View others on page Piece:2842 Folio:111 Page Number:28 Household schedule number:157 Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Timmers 34 Telephone cable jioner Kate Timmers 25 Born Hereford Thomas Timmers 1 Anmie Timmers 4 Months Norah Chambers 19 Boarder
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26 Aug 2014 10:44 |
Annie would be one of the children you died
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1901 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timmins Amelia Annie Birmingham 6d 120 Scan available - click to view
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timmins Amelia Annie 1 Birmingham 6d 60
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26 Aug 2014 10:51 |
Baptisms I can find
Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912 about Thomas Edward Timmins
Name:Thomas Edward Timmins Baptism Date:20 Aug 1899 Baptism Place:Birmingham, St Stephen, Warwickshire, England Father:Thomas Timmins Mother:Catherine Timmins Reference Number:DRO 32 Archive Roll:626
Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912 about Ernest Timmins
Name:Ernest Timmins Baptism Date:5 Feb 1908 Baptism Place:Birmingham, St Matthias, Warwickshire, England Father:Thomas Timmins Mother:Catherine Timmins Reference Number:DRO 8 Archive Roll:618
Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912 about Kate Timmins
Name:Kate Timmins Baptism Date:5 Feb 1908 aptism Place:Birmingham, St Matthias, Warwickshire, England Father:Thomas Timmins Mother:Catherine Timmins Reference Number:DRO 8 Archive Roll:618
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ArgyllGran
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26 Aug 2014 11:41 |
Some of this has been duplicated on page three of Richard's other thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1343186
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Richard
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26 Aug 2014 13:18 |
Thank you to all, i am ammazed the speed you have all pulled up and sived this data . I will review and use my redits for copies of your findings. many thanks this is a great sight and so many helpers. Thanks once again Richard Higgerson 26/8/2014
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26 Aug 2014 13:52 |
hi richard
info found on find my past
i put in kate born 1904 with father thomas in warwickshire and kate simmins name came up which is mistranscribed
dont worrry you will learn quickly like everyone else
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26 Aug 2014 14:02 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 13, Cowper Street Burton Place, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Timmins Head Married Male 34 1867 Telephone Cable Jointer Birmm, Warwickshire Image Transcription Kate Timmins Wife Married Female 25 1876 Silver Burnisher Hereford Image Transcription Thomas Timmins Son Single Male 1 1900 - Birmm, Warwickshire Image Transcription Annie Timmins Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Birmm, Warwickshire Image Transcription Norah Chambers Boarder Single Female 19 1882 Press Worker Birmm, Warwickshire
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