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Denise
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22 Aug 2014 12:52 |
Hi all, John and Alice were married 8/5/1880 on their marriage licence it states William as John's father. I have found Williams family on the 1871 census living at Beaumont st Warrington, his wife being Margaret nee Alcock ( her brother Robert was a witness at their wedding) but I can't find the family in the 1861 census. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Denise
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Denise
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22 Aug 2014 12:57 |
Could Margaret be calling herself Mary on the 1861 census for the Alcock family? I'm totally confused, lol. Denise
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 12:59 |
I think this might be them........Margaret transcribed as Mary A...
1861 England Census about William Forster Name:William Forster Age:24 Estimated birth year:1837 Relation:Son-in-law Spouse's Name:Mary A Forster Gender:Male Where born:Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Warrington Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul Town:Warrington County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Household Members:
John Alcock 64 Esther Alcock 52 Thomas Alcock 18 Michael Alcock 12 Robert Alcock 9 >>>>>> The Brother William Forster 24 (Married) Mary A Forster 21 Daughter (Married) John Forster 2 Grandson Esther Forster 5/12 Grandaughter
(Looking at the 1881 census........it is the right family)
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Thelma
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22 Aug 2014 13:00 |
1 England Census about William Forster Name: William Forster Age: 24 Estimated birth year: 1837 Relation: Son-in-law Spouse's Name: Mary A Forster Gender: Male Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Warrington Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Warrington County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Warrington Sub-registration district: Warrington ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Piece: 2795 Folio: 13 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age John Alcock 64 Esther Alcock 52 Thomas Alcock 18 Michael Alcock 12 Robert Alcock 9 William Forster 24 Mary A Forster 21 John Forster 2 Esther Forster 5/12
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2014 13:01 |
1871 for our reference:
871 England Census about William Forster Name: William Forster Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Forster Gender: Male Where born: Warrington Civil Parish: Warrington Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Warrington County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Warrington Sub-registration district: Warrington ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 3904 Folio: 116 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age William Forster 34 Margaret Forster 31 John Forster 12 Esther Forster 10 Thomas Forster 8 Eliza Forster 4 Elizabeth Forster 2 Mary Rointon 12 - servant
The ages certainly fit with those in 1861.
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 13:11 |
1851 England Census about John Allcock Name:John Allcock Age:46 Estimated birth year:abt 1805 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Esther Allcock Gender:Male Where born:Prescot Civil Parish:Warrington
Household Members:
John Allcock 46 Esther Allcock 42 Winefred Allcock 16 Mary Ann Allcock 11 Thomas Allcock 9 Michael Allcock 4
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Denise
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22 Aug 2014 13:13 |
Thanks for your help, i was a little confused as to the name change. Do you think it's the same person. Margaret/ Mary A? Denise x
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Potty
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22 Aug 2014 13:21 |
Do you have William and Mary Ann's marriage cert? This seems to be their marriage reg and she is shown as Mary Ann. The 1871 is the only one where she appears as Margaret.
Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allcock Mary Ann Warrington 8c 125 FORSTER William Warrington 8c 125
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Denise
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22 Aug 2014 13:34 |
I don't have it only John and Alice's. Now I need to find Williams parents, lol, let's hope that's a little easier. Thank you all so much for all your help, it is very much appreciated x Denise
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 13:39 |
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about William Forster Name:William Forster Gender:Male Christening Date:6 Mar 1836 Christening Place:Warrington, Lancashire, England Father's Name:James Forster Mother's name:Margaret
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 13:43 |
1851 England Census about William Forster Name:William Forster Age:15 Estimated birth year:abt 1836 Relation:Son Father's Name:James Forster Mother's name:Margaret Forster Gender:Male Where born:Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Warrington
Household Members:
James Forster 48 (Foundry Labourer) Margaret Forster 47 Elizabeth Forster 33 George Forster 17 William Forster 15 James Forster 13 Edward Forster 10 Mary Forster 8 Margaret Forster 5
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 13:45 |
1841 England Census about William Forster Name:William Forster Age:6 Estimated birth year:abt 1835 Gender:Male Where born:Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Warrington Hundred:West Derby County/Island:Lancashire Country:England
Household Members:
James Forster 35 (Tin Plate Worker) Margt Forster 35 Ellen Forster 15 Eliz Forster 12 Jane Forster 10 George Forster 8 William Forster 6 James Forster 3 Edward Forster 6 Mo
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 13:53 |
1861 England Census about James Ferster Name:James Ferster[James Forster] Age:58 Estimated birth year:1803 Relation:Head Gender:Male Where born:Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Warrington Town:Warrington County/Island:Lancashire Country:England
James Ferster 58 (Widower) Tin Plate Worker Mary Ferster 18
1871 England Census about James Forster Name:James Forster Age:67 Estimated birth year:abt 1804 Relation:Head Gender:Male Where born:Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Warrington Ecclesiastical parish:St Elphin Town:Warrington County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Registration district:Warrington
Household Members:
James Forster 67 George Forster 38 Edward Forster 30 Mary Forster 28
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Denise
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22 Aug 2014 14:06 |
Oh wow, thank you do much PricklyHolly x
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 14:58 |
This looks like James on the 1881 census......
Mistranscribed as Foster........but reads Forster on the image.
(Ages a bit out)
1881 England Census about James Foster Name:James Foster Age:78 Estimated birth year:abt 1803 Relationship to Head:Head Gender:Male Where born:Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Latchford County/Island:Cheshire Country:England Street address:112 Knutsford Road Marital Status:Widow Occupation:General Labourer Registration district:Warrington Sub-registration district:Latchford
Household Members:
James Foster 78 Mary Foster 35 (Daughter) Unmarried William Foster 40 (Son) Married (Tailor)
William can't be the son who married Mary Ann Alcock........perhaps he is a Son in Law or Nephew?
Deaths Dec 1883 (>99%) FORSTER James 78 Warrington 8c 133
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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 15:29 |
I am trying to figure out who the William is in the 1881 census.
Does this makes any sense to you........??
1911 England Census about William Forster Name:William Forster Age in 1911:75 Estimated birth year:abt 1836 Relation to Head:Visitor Gender:Male Birth Place:Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Warrington County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address:18 New Road Latchford Marital Status:Widowed Occupation:Sailor >>>>>Tailor on the image.
Household Members:
George Bowden 42 Amy Bowden 37 James Bowden 17 Gertrude Bowden 16 Mary Bowden 14 Frank Bowden 9 Arthur Bowden 8 Lilly Bowden 2 Doris Bowden 9/12 William Forster 75
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) Bowden George Warrington 8c 261 Forster Amy Warrington 8c 261
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Denise
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23 Aug 2014 16:38 |
Yes it does :-) thank you x
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