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death in Lancashire?

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Blaine

Blaine Report 14 Aug 2014 14:56

Yes.... will have to make a decision on that one!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Aug 2014 12:00

Remember that on the 1901 image, William's age is 48, not 40 as mistranscribed on Ancestry.

Registration wasn't compulsory in IoM until 1878, and his birth doesn't appear here:
http://www.manxbmd.com/index.html
So you may never know exactly when he was born (1901 census not necessarily accurate).

The 1908 death I posted on page 1 may therefore still be correct, even though the man's age appears to be several years out, but you'd have to buy both it and the marriage cert to compare the fathers' names - and the marriage cert would give an age.

As we don't know his YOB, there are several people who might be him in 1871 & 1881 censuses.

Blaine

Blaine Report 13 Aug 2014 20:34

Thanks for the responses.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 13 Aug 2014 17:02

I think I can see where all the red herrings are...

Blaine states that Mary Alice is definitely with her sister Fanny Little, at Market Harborough in 1911.
Mary Ann and 2 children are in this SAME household at 1891
Mary Ann is listed as married but her husband is not on the census.

1891 England Census about Mary A Corlett
Name: Mary A Corlett
[Mary A Little]
[Mary A Newman]
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Sarah A Newman
Gender: Female
Where born: Market Harborough, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Cheetham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
View image
Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3264
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah A Newman 59 Head B Spalding, Lincs
Mary A Corlett 35. Daugher. Married b Market Harborough
Fanny E Little 33 Daughter. b Greenwich, Kent
William A Corlett 3 Grandson. b Manchester
Frank L Corlett 8 months Grandson . B Manchester

The next census for this family at 1901 was posted above by ArgyllGran.

Therefore, the father William appears only on the 1901 census where is is listed as age 40yrs , and Mary Alice is widowed at 1911.
Based on this, William was born in Ramsey, IOM and died between 1901 and 1911

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Aug 2014 16:15

1891
William H Corlett Head Married Male 28 1863 Labourer General Liverpool
Mary A Corlett Wife Married Female 26 1865 Plymouth
Adiliade Corlett Daughter - Female 1 1890
Street Dickenson Street
Parish Liverpool
City Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Municipal ward Pitt Street
Parliamentary borough Abercromby
Ecclesiastical district St Thomas
Registration district Liverpool
Enumeration district 3
Series RG12
Piece number 2910
Folio number 53
Page 24

(apologies Jan, and Folks, was following above wrong couple!)

Chris :)

07 March 1924 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England

Death
On the 5th, Fanny Elizabeth Little, of 357, Holderness Road, Hull. Cortege leaves 18, Chaucer Road, 10.30, Saturday morning for Western Cemetery.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Aug 2014 15:38

If you wish to pursue this, you might need the marriage cert, as Chris suggests. That way you can confirm his age and hopefully name of his father. so he will be easier to find on a census.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Aug 2014 15:35

Chris, not sure how the above Liverpool Corlett fits in? Here is that couple's marriage, and them in 1901:

Marriages Sep 1887
CORLETT William Henry Liverpool 8b 84
HARVEY Mary Ann Liverpool 8b 84


1901 England Census

Name: William H Corlett
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Ann Corlett
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Piece: 3414
Folio: 54

William H Corlett 39
Mary Ann Corlett 37
Adelaide Corlett 11
Harriet Corlett 8
Edward H Corlett 6
Mary Jane Corlett 3
Annie Corlett 6 Months

Jan

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Aug 2014 08:40

Elizabeth Jane Corlett 15 Nov 1887 Liverpool, St Michael 30 Nov 1887 William Henry Corlett,
Mary Ann Corlett


Adelaide Corlett 19 Nov 1889 Liverpool, St Michael 4 Dec 1889 William Henry Corlett,
Mary Anne Corlett


All Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 (Ancestry)

(notice Boiler Maker as Occ. given on both above, as below 1881, address on first, 16, Dickinson Street, other, 108, Pitt Street)


Deaths Mar 1889 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Corlett Elizabeth Jane 1 Liverpool 8b 75


1881
Name:William Corlett
Age:19
Estimated birth year:abt 1862
Relationship to Head:Son
Mother:Ellen Corlett
Gender:Male
Where born:L'pool
Civil Parish:Liverpool
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:12 Juvenal Plc.
Occupation:Boiler Maker
Registration district:Liverpool
Sub-registration district:St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel:2
Piece:3593
Folio:36
Page Number:18
Ellen Corlett 46
William Corlett 19
John Corlett 17
Emma Corlett 13
Jane Corlett 10

Chris :)


Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Little Mary Alice Poplar 1c 1237
Corlett William Henry Poplar 1c 1237

(details needed from above, to be sure of things!)

Blaine

Blaine Report 12 Aug 2014 23:46

It has to be Mary Alice Corlett... she is at her sister, Fanny Little's home
in 1911 census as a widow.
This may be all we ever find.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2014 22:11

So you are certain that your distant cousin was definitely born c1857 in Market Harborough, and therefore definitely the one on the censuses, married to William Corlett?

I know she moved around a bit before marriage - in a different county in each of 1861, 1871, and 1881.
But I just wondered why she would get married in London? And therefore wondered if it was the right marriage.

In 1881 she was living in Lancashire, and FreeBMD shows two marriages for women called Mary Alice Little in Lancashire (Prescot and Rochdale).
Also one in Reigate, Surrey.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 12 Aug 2014 20:47

Blaine, you must have a reason to be looking at this person though, so how have you arrived at him?
The actual image on the 1901 census says place of birth is 'IOM' - so isle of Man not isle of Wight.
Jan

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2014 17:11

How have you worked back to him?
Is it through one of his children?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2014 16:57

FreeBMD has these births around that time -- none in IoW:


Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
CORLETT William W Derby 20 1151

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
Corlett William Liverpool 20 399

Births Jun 1855 (>99%)
Corlett William St Pancras 1b 60

Births Sep 1857 (>99%)
Corlett William Wigan 8c 40
Corlett William Liverpool 8b 40

Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
CORLETT William Chorlton 8c 537

Births Mar 1860 (>99%)
CORLETT William W Derby 8b 393

Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
CORLETT William Gloucester 6a 207


Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
CORLETT William Gloucester 6a 231

Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
CORLETT William Liverpool 8b 47

Births Mar 1863 (>99%)
CORLETT William W Derby 8b 364
CORLETT William Cockermouth 10b 467

Births Dec 1863 (>99%)
CORLETT William Henry W Derby 8b 277

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
CORLETT William Birkenhead 8a 457

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2014 16:48

Yes, I agree with Brummiejan. The 1901 image says he was 48, which, if correct, would make his birth 1853.

Gee

Gee Report 12 Aug 2014 16:46

Are you sure it was the Isle of White and not the Isle of Man...as above

Gee

Gee Report 12 Aug 2014 16:40

Ref


Web: Isle of Man, Baptism Index, 1600-1981


Name:William Henry Corlett

Baptism Date:24 Jul 1859

Baptism Place:Lezayre, Isle of Man

Residence:Ramsey

Father:
John Corlett (drayman)

Mother:
Mary Corlett (née Callister)

Biography:Parents: John Corlett (drayman) & Mary Corlett (née Callister).

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 12 Aug 2014 16:36

I think he was 48 in 1901?
Jan

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2014 16:32

???? Per FreeBMD

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
CORLETT William Henry 59 Salford 8d 76

[EDIT:
Wrong age. Are you certain he was born c1861?]

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2014 16:31

As Brummiejan says, there are several possibilities.

Also quite a number of William H Corletts alive in 1911, and born in or near 1861 in Ramsey and other places in Isle of Wight.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2014 16:26

Mary Alice widowed in 1911:


1911 England Census about Mary Alice Corlett
Name: Mary Alice Corlett
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Market Harbro, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 357 Holderness Rd Hull
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Dressmaker
Registration district: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration district: Southcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 28593
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny Elizabeth Little 53
Mary Alice Corlett 54
Frank Leslie Corlett 20
Alice Masie Corlett 16
Walter Harry Corlett 15
Frances Mary Corlett 12