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Death of Robert Wilson 1848 - 1892 Maidstone Kent
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 08:44 |
My Great Grandfather - Robert Wilson 1849 -1892 |
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Jacqueline | Report | 9 Aug 2014 09:00 |
You may find a general idea of what river barges looked like, and what sort of cargoes they carried, by googling for them |
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Researching: |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 09:05 |
Many Thanks Jacqueline. Yes difficult, have tried several research sources, but they need to know barge reg number and owner. There are about 20 possible barges called "elizabeth" |
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Dea | Report | 9 Aug 2014 10:15 |
Is this him on 1891 (for reference)? |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 10:33 |
Yes Dea. |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 10:41 |
Also Jesse Honey, A daliance outside and before marriage to Eliza Waghorn was a bargee too. I am finding difficulty tracing exact parentage of Eliza A Waghorn she was born in Town Sutton (Sutton Valence) Maidstone but Waghorns seem prolific locally and she may have been listed as Elizabeth. Funnily enough Robert seniors barge was Elizabeth which he fell off and drowned. |
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Dea | Report | 9 Aug 2014 12:01 |
Sorry - I have lost you there on Eliza Waghorn |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 12:41 |
very sorry getting confused. Yes Robert Wilson married Elizabeth May on 14/7/1878 she was a widow and had son Jesse Honey b1871 - Robert took Jesse on as his own son, but jesse kept surname Honey. Robert had several children and had a daughter later Caroline my grandmother ( who called herself Kesiah). |
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Dea | Report | 9 Aug 2014 12:48 |
That's better - I thought I was going doolally there :-D |
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Dea | Report | 9 Aug 2014 13:06 |
Well, she looks to be this one: |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 14:02 |
yes.Many Thanks Dea, |
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Dea | Report | 9 Aug 2014 14:08 |
The marriage cert will confirm the father's details - |
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Gritty | Report | 9 Aug 2014 14:16 |
Sorry, this isn't immediatley related (and you may already have the information) but interestingly, there is an article dated 10th Jan 1873 about a Jesse Honey:- |
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Dea | Report | 9 Aug 2014 14:26 |
Thanks Helen - I was looking in the newspapers but hadn't found anything.. - That is certainly the correct death. |
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Gritty | Report | 9 Aug 2014 14:38 |
On the 1871 census there are lots of Honey's living at Windmill Row- perhaps his parents |
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Dea | Report | 9 Aug 2014 14:56 |
Yes - It probably means that he was part of a large family rather than he was the father of many children. I suppose, that's what you immediately think when there is also a 'widow' involved. |
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Mavis | Report | 9 Aug 2014 16:09 |
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Researching: |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 18:24 |
Thank you all, some intigueing things about Jesse Honey that will need some investigation. It is an unusual name and linking in the barge information makes it look as if my Jesse b1871 was part of the same family. Was Elizabeth May - Jesse Honey's mother, common law wife or partner to Jesse Senior or did she revert to her maiden name before marrying Robert Wilson. It is likely the newspaper article 10/1/1873 relates to my Jesse Honey's biological father Jesse senior as Elizabeth was widowed prior to meeting and marrying Robert Wilson in Dec 1874. It is very likely that the barge folk would know and be friends with each other. It would be great to confirm all these links. |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 18:40 |
I just checked my notes I was wrong Robert Wilson and Elizabeth May married 14/7/1878 at St Faiths Church Maidstone, i also found from independant info from my family passed on records, that Jesse Honey's father died in 1873 - Perfect im sure I have a link.. |
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Derek | Report | 9 Aug 2014 19:10 |
Notes shows him as Jesse James May in 1881 census. Later Jesse May-Honey step son of Robert Wilson, In 1891 census he lives with a John Smith at Gillingham Kent as Barge Mate aged 20. 1896 he marries Eliza Wenham .1901 census has i daughter Rose 1 month and now a stone quarryman. 1911 census shows him as a widower aged 40 and Bargeman / mate lodging with sister Elizabeth Palmer. Son Jesse James Honey born 1905 we believe was fostered after death of mother. Sister Rose age 10 was living with my grandmother Caroline (Kesiah) nee Wilson b1886 and Grandfather Frederick R Parker b1885. |