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Mystery family in the Netherlands
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Wayne Kenneth | Report | 9 Aug 2014 01:21 |
openarch.nl records a baptism of a child Johannes Stefanus Steenbergh, on the 5th of July 1786, in Leiden. his parents are Cornelia Rosetta Lucardie & Abraham Steenbergh, with Witnesses Margareta Lucardie & Pieter Johannes Stefanus Lucardie.. |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 9 Aug 2014 11:18 |
Name: Abraham Steenbergh |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 9 Aug 2014 11:19 |
Name: Abraham Steenbergh |
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Wayne Kenneth | Report | 9 Aug 2014 12:32 |
Thanks re the Steenbergh detail.. The mystery is Pieter Johannes Stefanus Lucardie pre 1786.. can't see marriage, birth or any such detail. |
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Gee | Report | 9 Aug 2014 12:39 |
Approximately when was Pieter born? |
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Wayne Kenneth | Report | 9 Aug 2014 13:37 |
Hi.. some of that family travelled to the UK in the 19th Century but of this Pieter Johannes Stefanus Lucardie, I've no idea. As to age, with a grandson being baptised in Leiden in 1786, I'm guessing that he'd be near 50 y.o., born circa 1730. that only adds to the mystery as all known individuals of this surname, of Dutch origin, are related and the earliest was circa 1722 in Den Bosch. As for this Pieter.. his attendance at this baptism is the only record of him, found so far. |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 9 Aug 2014 18:15 |
Name: Pieter Johannes Lucardie |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 9 Aug 2014 18:15 |
Name: Pieter Johannes Lucardie |
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Gee | Report | 9 Aug 2014 18:19 |
Ann, Wayen gives the date of birth in the 18th century |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 9 Aug 2014 20:02 |
realise that Gins - just stuck them on when I found them in case they connect |
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Wayne Kenneth | Report | 9 Aug 2014 23:49 |
Ann, Gins..That is one of the frustrations of this mystery Pieter.. The Peter ( and his spouse Agatha ) that Ann mentioned, are 1st cousins ( several removes ) to my line, there is a shared Grandparent, 2 times to Pieter ( and Agatha ), 4 times to my line, and Pieter Johannes Stefanus became a name tradition in the Lucardie line.. a grandson of Pieter & Agatha was to set up a business in the U.K. ( Agatha's husband Pieter was a 'thread manufacturer' ). |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 10 Aug 2014 06:28 |
question ... the 1786 baptism has |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 10 Aug 2014 06:57 |
could a child baptised in July 1786 have been a 'ship's boy' in November 1793 i.e. aged 7 and a half? |
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Wayne Kenneth | Report | 10 Aug 2014 09:58 |
JoonieCloonie.. that's some new detail for me to look at. Many Thanks.. I've been away all day at a 90th birthday so will look at this this evening.. Thanks again. |
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Wayne Kenneth | Report | 10 Aug 2014 12:05 |
Hi again. JoonieCloonie.. re the 'ship's boy' in November 1793. This Johannes Stephanus Lucardie is a known individual.. baptised on the 19th of June 1777, witnessed by his parents 1751 Johannes Stephanus Lucardie & Adriana van Ijpen as well as his Grandfather, 1722 Johannes Stephanus Lucardie & his 2nd wife Margareta van der Ven. |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 10 Aug 2014 20:36 |
glad some of that helped ;) |
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Wayne Kenneth | Report | 11 Aug 2014 01:48 |
Hi JoonieCloonie.. yes the proliferation of like names such as Johannes Stephanus & Pieter Johannes Stefanus can tie you in knots in this Family tree however, 1722 Johannes Stephanus Lucardie died in 1781 in den bosch, and his 2nd wife, Margareta van der Ven died in 1777 so that her out of being the Margareta at the 1786 Leiden baptism. |