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Fred, once you've got the certificate then add the details to this thread and we'll take it from there ..

:-) will do

BUT - could he be the one born Wales?

Fred, personally I'd start with the marriage certificate as you're sure of Eliza as his wife, at least the marriage cert will confirm his father.

Births Dec 1849 (>99%)
DAVIES Henry Sunderland 24 348

I've used Baptistism records and births death cert. As well as census records bought what I could many hours spent in libraries..... Got Henry's birth now so next week I'm going to try and find he's birth cert. Fingers crossed...thanks for help and advice it's given me the umf to carry on

Please, Fred, don't rule out people because of a slight difference in the way a name is recorded.

As a general rule Davis is English, and Davies is Welsh, but that isn't set in stone.

It would be advisable to find the record of the marriage, and if you find it, get a copy, so that you know who he said his father was

Fred, names mutate over the years and in order to get over your brick walls you have to investigate variants of the same name. A Davis could become a Davies and vice versa.

Often people were barely (if at all) literate so mightn't have even known how their names were actually spelled - they wouldn't be any the wiser if the census enumerator recorded them as e.g. Davis or Davies.

Same goes for birth years, anything up to +/- 5 year variance on records is not at all unusual.

How have you worked back to Henry - is he a direct ancestor? If so, what is your line to him? Have you bought any certificates (birth, marriage) to get further information?

As I say hit a wall, don't know where he was born , Wales or Sunderland defo Davies not Davis, born 1847 Eliza was he's wife but that's it can't find anymore, I've totally hit a blank, had some promising leads but they came to nothing

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
101, Low Street, Sunderland, Durham, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Davis Head Married Male 42 1819 Rope Maker Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire
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Elizabeth Davis Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Southampton, Hampshire
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Emma Davis Daughter - Female 14 1847 Scholar Southampton, Hampshire
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Henry Davis Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Sunderland, Durham
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Lavina Gaines Mother Widow Female 77 1784 - Dumbleton

Hi Fred - so was he born in Wales then?

Ah thanks peeps... Cornwall is new but everything else rings true

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
37, Silver Street, Sunderland, Durham, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Davis Head Married Male 34 1817 Tivine Spinner Upton, Gloustrsh
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Elizabeth Davis Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Millbrook, Hampshire
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Emma Davis Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Holyrood, Hampshire
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Henry Davis Son - Male 1 1850 - Sunderd, Durham xxxxxxxxx

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Cuthberts Terrace, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Davies Head Married Male 44 1847 Holder Up Wales
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Eliza Davies Wife Married Female 44 1847 - -
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Walter Davies Son - Male 17 1874 Heater Cornwall
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Lucy Davies Daughter - Female 16 1875 - Cornwall
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Thomas Davies Son - Male 15 1876 Heater County Durham
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Mary J Davies Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar County Durham
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Herbert Davies Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Cornwall

Hello Fred, welcome to the community boards.

Does you're being in Sunderland imply that is where Henry is from?

Did he marry and have you got the cert ?

Which census have you found him on etc

Hi I'm new to site and I'm looking for help I've deemed to have hit a wall in my tree. I can't find the parents of Henry Davies born abt 1847. I've got quite a lot from there but nothing earlier.... Please help I'd love to go beyond this .Fred Davies sunderland