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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 13 Aug 2014 13:47

Sadly -a likely one

Deaths Mar 1859 (>99%)
GALE Elizabeth Newton A 5b 100 Scan available - click to view

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 13 Aug 2014 13:36

Thats so helpful thank you very much ;)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 13 Aug 2014 13:08

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Russell Lane, West Teignmouth, Newton Abbot, Devon, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation
John Gale Head Married Male 28 1823 Mason Image Transcription
Elizabeth Gale Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Image Transcription
Katherine Gale Daughter - Female 0 1851 -






1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pound Lane, East Teignmouth, Newton Abbot, Devon, England


1861 census
Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Gale Head Widower Male 35 1826 Plasterer Teignmouth, Devon Image Transcription
Katherine Gale Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Teignmouth, Devon Image Transcription
Eliza Gale Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Teignmouth, Devon

it looks like the mother died soon after Emily was born, so that would explain why she was put out as a nurse child

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 13 Aug 2014 13:06

Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
Gale Catherine Elizabeth Newton A. 5b 237 Scan available - click to view
PEDRICK Thomas Giles Newton A. 5b 237 Scan available - click to view

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 13 Aug 2014 13:05

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
French Street, East Teignmouth, Newton Abbot, Devon, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Pester Head Married Male 60 1801 Mason Labourer Teignmouth, Devon Image Transcription
Eleanor Pester Wife Married Female 55 1806 - Combeinteignhead, Devon Image Transcription
Emily Gale Nursechild - Female 2 1859 - Teignmouth, Devon Image Transcription
Benjamin Zelley Lodger Unmarried Male 26 1835 Mason Labourer Twerton, Devon Image Transcription

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 13 Aug 2014 13:01

Thanks - I have the war memorial etc and been in touch with jack Earnshaw -but he didn't have Samuels second marriage either -so will be able to share with him now ;)

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 13 Aug 2014 12:55

YES! i would love the info -sorry only just seen your reply as been away.

Oh wow! thanks just seen this! -Yes I have some old papers from 'Aunt Flower/Flo' as she was called by my grandad. But there are no names on photos etc which is a shame. There is also a letter from Samuel son Rupert in 1901 which is pretty cool ;)
Yes Emily died quite young according to the grave -so she did die before Samuel.

I just received the marriage cert today.

2.12.1906 at Zion Chapel,Torquay,Devon,
Samuel Trout (Father John trout - deceased -Master mariner)
Emily Gale age 45 -Spinster- father John Gale (deceased) a builder

So as I hoped really.

I think I may have Emily on 1881 with her sister Catherine? but need to confirm when i can get to library to look up things.

On 1911 Emily is down as born Teignmouth so it does fit -just need to find Catherine and Emily born Teignmouth with a father called John who is a builder ;)
and the right dates of course.

This is the 'possible 'for 1881

Emily A. Gale
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship to Head: Sister in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Teignmouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: West Teignmouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 1 Higher Brook St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: General Servant
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Teignmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2156
Folio: 84
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas A.G. Pedrick 32
Catherine E. Pedrick 30
Alice Marie Pedrick 9
John Gale Pedrick 7
Thomas R. Pedrick 5
Catherine G. Pedrick 3
Florence E. Pedrick 1
Emily A. Gale 22

Thanks so much for your help everybody

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Aug 2014 20:39

If you decide to send for the will that GIns posted and you need the link to do so - let us know!

Jude

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Aug 2014 16:22

Name: Florence Merchant
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Topsham, Devon
Civil Parish: Bampton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: The Retreat, Bampton, Devon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 2
Estimated Marriage Year: 1909
Registration district: Tiverton
Registration District Number: 282
Sub-registration district: Bampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 13253
Household Members:
Name Age
William Merchant 24
Florence Merchant 30



Name: William Merchant
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Exeter
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 192
Records on Page:
Name
Albert Dash
William Merchant
Florence Troute <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Beatrice Undery

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2014 14:28

This is the marriage of Florence Maude mentioned in the will:-

Year Of Marriage 1922
First name(s) ALFRED H
Last name ORCHARD
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1922
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ALFRED H ORCHARD married
FLORENCE M MERCHANT
Spouse's last name MERCHANT
District TIVERTON
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 945

Kath. x

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Aug 2014 11:42

Possible death for Emily?

Deaths Dec 1916 (>99%)
Trout Emily 59 St.Thomas 5b 61

Gritty

Gritty Report 6 Aug 2014 10:44

I've just sent a couple of the obituaries listed in the paper to you by pm- he was known amongst his friends as 'Captain Trout' :)

Neither of them mention Emily- perhaps she died before he did?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Aug 2014 08:57

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C14085528

(mention of him on above)


Newspapers, for an idea!...names sometimes give clues in Death notices etc.

Chris :)

http://www.jearnshaw.me.uk/tree/6/12084.htm


http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/Topsham/TopshamWarMemorial194to1918.htm

(from google search)

Gee

Gee Report 6 Aug 2014 07:56

Not sure if you already have this. Might be worth sending for the Will


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name:Samuel Trout of: 12 The Strand, Topsham

Probate Date:1 Feb 1929

Death Date:17 Jan 1929

Death Place:Devon, England

Registry:London, England

Probate to: Florence Maude Orchard (wife of Alfred Henry Orchard) £137 12s 2d

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 5 Aug 2014 21:44

Thanks -I'm hoping thats the case -going bite the bullet and order it! I(I hadn't found that birth) but it is the only marriage I found too.
Thank you very much

Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Aug 2014 21:31

This one would be the right age, so could just be they married in her home town?

Births Mar 1859 (>99%)
GALE Emily Bessy Newton A 5b 116

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 5 Aug 2014 21:31


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Address 1 STONE COTTAGES TOPSHAM
Parish TOPSHAM
County Devon
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District
Enumeration District 3
Registration District ST THOMAS
Registration District Number 270
SubDistrict Number 3
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name SAMUEL
Last Name TROUT
Birth Year 1842
Age 69
Where Born TOPSHAM DEVON
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Condition MARRIED
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation MASTER MARINER
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN12601 RG78PN724 RD270 SD3 ED3 SN43
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 12601

Person 2

First Name EMILY
Last Name TROUT
Birth Year 1860
Age 51
Where Born TEIGNMOUTH DEVON
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Condition MARRIED
Year Of Marriage 1907
Years Of Marriage 4
Occupation
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN12601 RG78PN724 RD270 SD3 ED3 SN43
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 12601


States they have been married for 4 years

Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Aug 2014 21:30

Well it says on the 1911 that they have been married 4 years which would be right for the 1906 marriage?

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 5 Aug 2014 21:25


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


First Name SAMUEL
Last Name TROUT
Gender Male
Year 1906
Spouse
Image Quarter 4
Country England
County Devon
District NEWTON ABBOT
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 5B
Page 345
Line Number 272
Entry Number
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

he married
Emily gale
maude wait
maude gleason

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 5 Aug 2014 21:16


UPDATE _I HAVE THE MARRIAGE CERT _IT IS HIM :)

I have a Samuel Trout (born C1841 Topsham, Devon) who was married to Elizabeth Stamp (Born Woodbury C 1840,Devon in my tree. Elizabeth died -and according to the grave stone, Samuel married again to anEmily ?. (None of my family have heard of her!) -only of Elizabeth
They lived in Topsham Devon.
I have found Samuel on 1911 census -and indeed he is living with an Emily as his wife. I have checked our local church records -but couldn't find a marriage for them.

I did find one in Newton Abbott for OND 1906 -but am not sure if it's them. I don't see why he would marry there? (I appreciate I may have to bite the bullet and order it anyway)
Does anybody know if there are any other places I can check? I have emailed the westcountry Studies library -but have had no reply yet. Hoping they may have parish records for Newton Abbott ....