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Thanks again ... it does indeed look like he was a home child. Both his parents died quite young and he and his siblings were taken in by an aunt. Yes, his mother was a Snowdon.
Thanks everyone for all your help.

1911 England Census
about J Mills Griffiths Name:J Mills Griffiths
Age in 1911:37
Estimated birth year:abt 1874
Relation to Head:Son-in-law
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Liverpool
Civil Parish:West Derby
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:3 Upper Baker St Lpool <<<<<<<
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Insurance Clerk
Registration district:West Derby
Registration District Number:455
Sub-registration district:West Derby Western

Household Members:

Jessie Catherine Snowdon 63
J Mills Griffiths 37
Josephine Griffiths 34
Dot Stephens 32



Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
GRIFFITHS Joseph Mills W. Derby 8b 639
SNOWDON Josephine W. Derby 8b 639

On the 1930 arrival in Canada posted above, John was an office boy but intended doing land work. His passage had been paid by the government and his onward destination was the Church of England Boys Brassey Hostel, Indian Head, Sask.

His birthplace is given as Waterloo and the address of 3 Upper Baker Street was that of his aunt Mrs J Mills Griffiths.

All of the other passengers on that particular page are lads of a similar age, all passages paid by the government and all headed to various C of E hostels.

ADDED: Looking at Collections Canada he is included as a home child

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/list.aspx?Code=H30DT

Yvonne - on the birth record posted above the "Snowdon" denotes the mother's maiden name. :-)

Thanks so much for this info. The return journey in 1934 is definitely his as his home address was 3 Upper Baker Street. Maybe he returned because he couldn't find work. The birth above for Jun 1913, Farrer John Snowdon, is his. He didn't have a middle name but his mother's maiden name was Snowdon.
As to his posting to Australia, I think you might be right Sylvia. If he was in the RAF he probably did fly on a military plane.
Thanks again.

If he was posted to Australia, I wonder if he went on a troop ship (or even flew in a military plane down under)


in which case, I doubt there will be a passenger list for him

If this is his outward journey, his NOK address was 3 Upper Baker Street, so that is him returning in the1934 record above.


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about John Farrer
Name: John Farrer
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1914
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 8 Apr 1930
Vessel: Caronia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Caronia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14825

Have you discounted this one? Perhaps he didn't stay in Saskatchewan but moved around, or perhaps he broke his journey:


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about John Farrer
Name: John Farrer
Birth Date: abt 1913
Age: 21
Port of Departure: Cristobal, Panama
Arrival Date: 17 Dec 1934
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Vancouver
[Seattle]
[Portland]
[San Francisco]
[Los Angeles]
[San Jose]
Ship Name: Duchess of York
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of York' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Hamburg-American Line


He was heading for 3 Upper Baker Street, Liverpool. (I see your John died in Liverpool.)
For occupation, it says "Nil".

did he have a middle initial?

Which of these births is his??

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Farrer John Snowdon W.Derby 8b 467

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Farrer John R Wood Leeds 9b 622
Farrer John W Ellis Gt. Ouseburn 9a 137

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Farrer John R W Willans Ormskirk 8b 1622

Hi
I have a record of John Farrer (born 1913) leaving UK for Saskatchewan, Canada, in Mar 1930. The record says he intended to stay in Canada but we know he came back to UK and married in 1939. He died in UK in 1992. I've been told that he was in the RAF (wartime) and went (posted ??) to Australia. I can't find any record of him coming back to UK or any posting to Australia. Can anyone else have better luck than me?

Thanks.