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Hi all, I have been searching for details on my paternal grandmother Agnes Grierson I am now completely stumped. I know she passed away in 1982 in Kirkby, knowsley, liverpool. I have found that she married a Joseph Baker and therefore passed away as Agnes Baker but for her date of birth on the death page states around 1908 but I've been searching and cannot find any details.

Hi Carolann and welcome to the GR message boards

Marriage for ref

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%)
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Baker Joseph Grierson Liverpool 8b 311
Grierson Agnes Baker Liverpool 8b 311

Andy

This presumably is her death. Middle name not mentioned on marriage


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Agnes May Baker

Name:Agnes May Baker
Birth Date:1908
Date of Registration:Sep 1982
Age at Death:74
Registration district:Knowsley
Inferred County:Merseyside
Volume:36
Page:
2

Andy

Hi Carolann

Have you got the marriage certificate to check who her father was?

There is no birth with corresponds to the info given. These are the two closest I can see and dates are wrong if the info on the death record is correct.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1906 (>99%)
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Grierson Agnes Scott W. Derby 8b 342 Scan available - click to view


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
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GRIERSON Agnes Jones W.Derby 8b 1083



You will need a copy of the marriage cert to check her age and fathers details (if known)

You can order from

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Cost is £9.25 and takes about 5 days to arrive in post. You can't view on line.

Andy

Do you know if Agnes had any brothers or sisters?

Andy

It seems that the person who registered her death did not know her DOB as it should have been included in the registration

Did a little digging....was Agnes born in Scotland?

We believe that she may of had a younger sister Emily but no further details except she lived in Wavertree had a child called May.

Scotland possibilities

6 1908 GRIERSON AGNES F HAMILTON /LANARK 647/00 0963
7 1909 GRIERSON AGNES F HAWICK /ROXBURGH 789/00 0254
8 1909 GRIERSON AGNES GIBSON F COATBRIDGE OR OLD MONKLAND /LANARK 652/02 1394


so no Agnes May

Jude

Thank you for all your help x I have previously requested a marriage certificate but found two women with same name married a Joseph baker. I may have to request my elderly aunts birth certificate x

The information on a death certificate is only as good as the informant knows ........ or as much as the deceased allowed them to know!


Even family get it wrong.


Soooooooooo ........... age and date of birth are very often wrong



The only information that you can count on being correct on a death certificate is ..................


date and place of death
cause of death
name and address of doctor
name of coroner and date of coroner's inquest if applicable
name, address and relationship of informant


EVERYTHING else may have to be taken with a pinch of salt!

Not sure what you mean regarding the marriages you make mention to?


Marriages Sep 1929

Grierson Mary A m Thomas Baker W. Derby 8b 1241

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Marriages Jun 1934

Grierson Agnes m Joseph Baker Liverpool 8b 311



' I may have to request my elderly aunts birth certificate'

Who is your elderly aunt please?

My aunt is jean limacher she married Peter Anderson.

Hi

Thanks. What do you hope to find from her birth certificate?

Can you comment on the two marriages above, I'm confused.com! One is Mary Agnew and the other is Agnes

Edit:

Jean is Agnes Grierson' daughter?

Hi Carolann, I'm a little lost too!

Did the name Agnes Grierson come from your father's birth certificate? Was she unmarried when she had your father?

How did you find out she'd died with surname baker?

I do hope you get back to us :)

Hi, sorry for late reply this is where family issues set in i know from marriage certificate that my nan's maiden name is grierson. My father is baker but not sure how my aunt got surname limacher and noone knows why. I found two grierson and baker that married close to each other and ordered the other one and think she was mary x

Carolann that sounds like a mystery that you have to solve!!- if you definately know that Jean was your Dad's sister I would definately get her birth certificate.

But first you really need your Dad's birth cert- Does it give his father as Thomas or Joseph? There is only one Grierson marriage to a Joseph Baker, (the other Grierson/ Baker marriage is a Thomas Baker)

I hope this makes sense :)

I thought I'd add this birth to the Thread..........although the spelling of the surname is different it sounds similiar to Grierson

Name: Agnes May Grayson
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Swansea
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1126

This looks to be the 1911 census for the above birth

Name: Agnes May Grayson
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Llandeilo Talybont
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 28 Lower Lime St Gorseinon
Registration district: Swansea
Registration District Number: 594
Sub-registration district: Llandeilo Talybont
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Household schedule number: 243
Piece: 32725
Household Members:
Name Age
Vecey Grayson 29
Martha Grayson 25
Agnes May Grayson 3
Vecey Donald Grayson 8/12