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Can enyone help me here,
My wifes great grandfather, Wilson Hobson is listed as the son of Hy Fisher presumably Henry, and Harriet Fisher in the 1881 Census, living at Skelmanthorpe, what would be the
likely reason for a surname difference?
The 1911 census for Ernest and Gladys Hobson living at Water St Scissett (cildren of Wilson, state they are in the household of there grandmother Harriet Fisher, looks like widow of Henry), which seems to confirm. thanks.

Could be that Wilson was the son of Harriet from another marriage, or her illegitimate son if her maiden name was Hobson?
Do you have the marriage certificate for Henry and Harriet?

for ref:-

1881 England Census about Wilson Hobson
Name: Wilson Hobson
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Hy. Fisher
Mother: Harriet Fisher
Gender: Male
Where born: Skelmanthorpe, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Skelmanthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 21 Dearne St
Occupation: No Occupation
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkburton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4374
Folio: 74
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Hy. Fisher 36
Harriet Fisher 34
Wilson Hobson 14
Herbert Fisher 6
Allen Fisher 4
Hobson Fisher

Name: Wilson Hobson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Jul 1867
Christening Place: Scisset, York, England
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1867
Birthplace: null
Death Date: null
Name Note: null
Race: null
Father's Name: null
Father's Birthplace: null
Father's Age: null
Mother's Name: Harriet Hobson
Mother's Birthplace: null
Mother's Age: null
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02009-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1542250
Reference ID: item 1 p 137

His baptism:-

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Wilson Hobson
Name: Wilson Hobson
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1837
Parish: Scissett, St Augustine
Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1867
Father's Name: Hobson
Mother's name: Harriet Hobson

...........so mother's name is Hobson and no father named.

Original shows (illegitimate) for father.

This looks as though it may be him in 1871:-

1871 England Census about Willson Hobson
Name: Willson Hobson
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Grandson
Mother's name: Ann Hobson
Gender: Male
Where born: Scissett, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Cumberworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Scissett
Town: Scissett
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkburton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 145
Piece: 4355
Folio: 37
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Allan Roberts 74
Ann Hobson 44
Willson Hobson 4

.......although it state that Ann is his mother, so maybe not?


Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
xxxx FISHER Henry Huddersfield 9a 596
HAIGH George Huddersfield 9a 596
xxxx Hobson Harriet Huddersfield 9a 596
xxxx HOBSON Harriett Huddersfield 9a 596
Lockwood Emma Huddersfield 9a 596

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
FISHER Henry Huddersfield 9a 596 xxxxxx
HAIGH George Huddersfield 9a 596
Hobson Harriet Huddersfield 9a 596 xxxxxx
HOBSON Harriett Huddersfield 9a 596
Lockwood Emma Huddersfield 9a 596

Harriet's baptism ? :-

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Harriet Hobson
Name: Harriet Hobson
Parish: Scissett, St Augustine
Baptism Date: 23 May 1847
Father's Name: John Hobson
Mother's name: Ann Hobson

This looks as though it may be Harriet in 1861?

1861 England Census about Harriot Hobson
Name: Harriot Hobson
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Hobson
Mother's name: Ann Hobson
Gender: Female
Where born: Kitchn Royd, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Cumberworth Half
Ecclesiastical parish: Scisset St Augustine
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkburton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Piece: 3253
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hobson 38 - 1823 born: Denby Dale, Yorkshire (Finisher)
Ann Hobson 35 - 1826 born: Cawthorne, Yorkshire (Hand Loom Weaver)
Harriot Hobson 14 - (Spinner)
Hanohmorrier Hobson 12 (think name is Hannah Maria)
Arthur Hobson 8


Possible death for John:-

Deaths Mar 1868 (>99%)
Hobson John 45 Huddersfield 9a 202

...........so 1871 I found could very well be Ann as she is noted as widow on record.

Looking at the image of the 1871 census posted for Allan Roberts..........It is actually ADAM Roberts.........


1851 England Census
about Adam Roberts Name:Adam Roberts
Age:54
Estimated birth year:abt 1797
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Hannah Roberts
Gender:Male
Where born:Coat Green, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:High Hoyland
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Newmill
ED, institution, or vessel:6b

Household Members:

Adam Roberts 54
Hannah Roberts 48
George Roberts 23
Joshua Roberts 16
Ellen Roberts 14
Mary Roberts 12
Henry Roberts 10
Harriet Roberts 8
John Hobson 26
Ann Hobson 25
Harriot Hobson 11 <<<<<<< Skelmanthorpe (Age 4 on the image)
Hannah M Hobson 1



West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Harriet Hobson Name:Harriet Hobson
Parish:Scissett, St Augustine
Baptism Date:23 May 1847
Father's Name:John Hobson (Dyer) Skelman
Mother's name:Ann Hobson


Ann's baptism...


England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
about Ann Roberts Name:Ann Roberts
Birth Date:27 May 1826
Gender:Female
Event Type:Baptism
Father:Adam Roberts (Labourer) Cawthorne
Mother:Hannah Senior
Baptism Date:18 Jun 1826
Born: 27 May 1826
Baptism Place:Cawthorne, Yorkshire, England
Denomination:Wesleyan
Piece Title:Piece 3335: Cawthorne (Wesleyan), 1815-1837

On the same record is brother Thomas...Born 19 Jan 1825




1861 England Census
about Adam Roberts Name:Adam Roberts
Age:64
Estimated birth year:1797
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Hannah Roberts
Gender:Male
Where born:Penistone, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Cumberworth
Ecclesiastical parish:Scisset St Augustine
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England

Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Kirkburton


Household Members:

Adam Roberts 64
Hannah Roberts 58
Harriett Roberts 17
Mary J Morton 19 (Visitor)
Romalella Rodgers 17 (Visitor)

1841 England Census
about Adam Roberts Name:Adam Roberts
Age:45
Estimated birth year:abt 1796
Gender:Male
Where born:Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Cumberworth
Hundred:Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Kirkburton

Household Members:

Adam Roberts 45
Hannah Roberts 40
Thomas Roberts 15
George Roberts 13
Sarah Roberts 11
William Roberts 9
Joshua Roberts 6
Ellen Roberts 5
Mary Roberts 2
Henry Roberts 8 Mo

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Aaron Roberts Name>>>>>>Adam Roberts on the image.
Marriage or Bann Date:26 Oct 1823
Parish:Cawthorne, All Saints
Spouse's Name:Senior >>>>>Hannah Senior on the image.


??


West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
about Addam Roberts Name:Addam Roberts
Event Date:24 Jul 1796
Event Type:Christening (Baptism)
Parish:Silkstone with Stainborough, All Saints
Father's Name:Joshua Roberts (Coats)

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
about Adam Roberts Name:Adam Roberts
Birth Year:abt 1796
Parish:Scissett, St Augustine
Burial Date:16 May 1878
Burial Age:82



West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
about Hannah Roberts Name:Hannah Roberts
Birth Year:abt 1803
Parish:Scissett, St Augustine
Burial Date:3 Apr 1870
Burial Age:67


You didn't hang around...... so I am wondering if any of the above information is of interest to you Robert?

Yes, all the info from all of yoy is interesting, looks as though Harriet was indeed a Hobson, thanks again to all.

Thank you for getting back to us Robert.

Prickles. x

Can anyone find more info About Joshua Roberts?

father of the above Adam Roberts,
christening 24 July 1796 Silkstone Yorkshire
England Births and christenings 1538-1975 (family search)

There are other baptisms that would fit with that of Adam, so possible siblings:-

Hannah Roberts
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 25 May 1786 SILKSTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Joshua Roberts
mother: Hellen


Name: Thomas Roberts
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 05 Oct 1788
Christening Place: SILKSTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Joshua Roberts
Mother's Name: Hellen

Name: George Roberts
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 26 Feb 1792
Christening Place: SILKSTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Josha. Roberts
Mother's Name: Hellen

Name: Heriet Roberts
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Feb 1794
Christening Place: SILKSTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Josha. Roberts
Mother's Name: Hellen

Milia Roberts
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 15 July 1798 SILKSTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Joshua Roberts
mother: Ellin

Adam Roberts
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 24 July 1796 SILKSTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Joshua Roberts


............in which case it is possible that his mother was called Helen.

if this is the marriage of Joshua and Helen:-


Name: Joshua Robard
Spouse's Name: Helen Lister
Event Date: 06 Oct 1783
Event Place: Penistone,York,England

.............then these would also be siblings:-


Name: Henry Roberts
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Jan 1803
Christening Place: PENISTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 05 Oct 1802
Father's Name: Joshua Roberts
Mother's Name: Helen Lidster


Name: Janet Roberts
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 24 Mar 1805
Christening Place: PENISTONE,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 02 Jan 1805
Father's Name: Joshua Roberts
Mother's Name: Helen Lidster

May be worth keeping on file?

West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 about Joshua Roberts
Name: Joshua Roberts
Event Date: 23 Oct 1763
Event Type: Baptism
Parish: Penistone, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: Jno Roberts


West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about Joshua Roberts
Name: Joshua Roberts
Birth Year: abt 1764
Parish: Penistone, St John the Baptist
Burial Date: 13 May 1844
Burial Age: 80


????

1841 England Census about Jasuah Roberts
Name: Jasuah Roberts
Age: 77
Estimated birth year: abt 1764
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Silkstone
Hundred: Staincross
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Cordwainer

Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Wortley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1325
Book: 14
Folio: 18
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Jasuah Roberts 77
Mary Roberts 69
George Roberts 25
Joseph Shircliff 20
John Hattewly 13

I know here wife is called Mary but it is possible that Helen died and he remarried?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342217

As you can see Robert..........you already had the above information on the thread you posted later in the evening.

If you had stayed online for a few minutes, you could have edited this one so as not to have wasted Catherine's time.

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