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British Newspaper Archives
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 12:10 |
I was wondering if anybody can let me know what this article I have found continues to say? I can see just a few lines and it's going to give me some information I have been looking for, for a number of years......so excited about the find! |
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Ricochet | Report | 26 Jun 2014 12:19 |
It only says that he was in the South African War |
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Catherine | Report | 26 Jun 2014 12:56 |
for info:- |
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 12:59 |
Thank you for that. He was my Ggrandfather, his daughter my paternal grandmother and I knew his wife fanny my Ggrandmother, vaguely she lived on to 1964. I have him on the 1891/1901/1911 census He married in 1890. So I know that from at least 1890 he wasn't in the army. You mentioned it said about the south African war...hmm I wonder which one? just googled and it said it was part of the Zulu war! Many thanks again anyway. |
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:06 |
Hi Catherine, It's a long story but my Dad and I came to a conclusion that when his grandmother pointed to a painting of rorke's drift, and said 'That's where Dad was" that she was actually talking not about her Dad (George Green he absconded from his family and there were 2 train of thoughts a he had gone back into the army and died in one of the Boer wars!...eliminated or run off with a woman from the workhouse in pembuty where he worked...most likely...never found death or in fact a birth!!!) but she was talking about her husbad as was the turn of phrased husband and wife calling each other 'Mother/Dad' |
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Catherine | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:08 |
1891 he is using the name Neal:- |
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:11 |
Forgot it says 6 sons in his obituary as a son died by drowning at Cape Helles Dardenelles in 1917 as did most of his coy from the T/Wells area, rammed by a Navy ship in fog and most on board drowned.... |
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Ricochet | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:12 |
From his age, and the date of his enlistment you'd have to assume he was in the First S A War . He would have been 45 or thereabouts when the second conflict started in 1899. And he's on the censuses, you say, so obviously wasn't abroad |
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Catherine | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:15 |
As he used both his names in census records,and there are 2 possibles, if you wish to find him in earlier census records then best buy his marriage certificate to find out the name of his father and his occupation or his birth certificate which will also give you his mother's name. |
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Ricochet | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:16 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke's_Drift |
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:21 |
Just had a thought where the obit says he enlisted in the 1st royal West.....what does it say after 'West'? as I have been checking as it says that the royal west kent regiment started with that name in 1881! and yet Joesph Neal enlisted in 1875? thanks again |
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safc | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:25 |
Name: Joseph Henry Neal |
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Researching: |
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Ricochet | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:27 |
Kent Regiment |
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Catherine | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:28 |
If parents are correct then this would be him in 1861:- |
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Ricochet | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:30 |
the regiment was formed by: |
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 13:54 |
Thank you everyone, I have all info about re parents marriage etc just this army enlistment and now we have some proof that he was in Africa....the 1881 sounds good (he wasn't on the 1881 census) as he must of been at Rorke's drift at some stage, as the painting they had of it and referring to it as the place 'Dad' had been! my Dad didn't know his grandfather as he was only 3 when he died butt knew his grandmother very well with her living until 1964 and telling all the stories! |
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MarieCeleste | Report | 26 Jun 2014 14:24 |
The British Newspaper Archives ahas an offer on at the moment where you can get a 1 month subscription for £1. |
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 15:42 |
Wow thanks! Marie Celeste for that info but when I try and subscribe I fill in card details then next step it just doesn't contine just asks again to fill in card details and there isn't anywhere to do it just is it for you or gift and then promotion code and that's it! then the sessions expired try again??? |
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Dawn | Report | 26 Jun 2014 17:15 |
Thanks again Catherine, I found that link you gave me about Henry Neal and his enlistment and to my amazement I was able to see the image and save it to my computer! It said he was %ft 11ins at 18, well yes he was a big man and would of grown taller, some of his sons ended up being well over 6ft!! :-) |
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Catherine | Report | 26 Jun 2014 17:22 |
Hi Dawn, thought the military record was worth posting as name, date and place of birth all fit and the date of enlistment was also the same as that you gave (1875). As far as I can see the 97th Foot didn't serve in S.A. so it's probably just a coincidence but I think it may still be worth keeping on file, just in case. |