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13 Jun 2014 14:52 |
I believe i have found my ancestor Charlotte Hopper 1845 with her children Ann Gotham 1865 and Charlotte 1867 in the Warwickshire area. However i am unable to find a marriage on ancestry or freebmd for Charlotte.
Many thanks
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PricklyHolly
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13 Jun 2014 15:02 |
For info.........
1871 England Census about Charlotte Gotham Name:Charlotte Gotham Age:4 Estimated birth year:abt 1867 Relation:Granddaughter Mother's name:Charlotte Gotham Gender:Female Where born:East Malling, Kent, England Civil Parish:Sibertswold Town:Sibertswold County/Island:Kent Country:England Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district:Hougham
Household Members:
James Hopper 63 Mary Hopper 62 Charlotte Gotham 31 (Married) born 1840 Coldred Kent Anne Gotham 6 Charlotte Gotham 4 Jane Hopper 17
These details differ from yours........have I posted the correct family?
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13 Jun 2014 15:15 |
The children i have listed are the children of Jmes Hopper 1806-1866 and Mary Uknown 1816...
William Hopper 1840 marries Mary Francis Unknown James Hopper 1842 marries unknown Charlotte Hopper 1845 Unknown Gotham Jane Hopper 1854 Unknown
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PricklyHolly
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13 Jun 2014 15:16 |
I wonder.......
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Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%) Gilham William Dover 2a 1249 Hopper Charlotte Dover 2a 1249
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Mark
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13 Jun 2014 15:19 |
Many thanks unfortunately my time at library has run out - limited time only today. i shall return tomorrow.
Thanks
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PricklyHolly
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13 Jun 2014 15:20 |
1861 England Census about Charlotte Gilham Name:Charlotte Gilham Age:22 Estimated birth year:1839 Relation:Wife Spouse's Name:William Gilham Gender:Female Where born:Coldred, Kent, England Civil Parish:Lydden County/Island:Kent Country:England
Registration district:Dover Sub-registration district:Hougham
Household Members:
William Gilham 23 (Labourer) Lydden Kent Charlotte Gilham 22 William Gilham 11/12
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Potty
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13 Jun 2014 15:20 |
Snap, Prickly!
Mark, how have you got back to this family, and which is your direct Ancestor?
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LondonBelle
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13 Jun 2014 15:22 |
Also, Coldred is in the Registration District of Dover
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PricklyHolly
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13 Jun 2014 15:26 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about William Gilham Name:William Gilham Gender:Male Baptism Date:24 Jun 1860 Baptism Place:Parish Church of Lydden, Kent, England Father: William Gilham Mother: Charlotte FHL Film Number:1850123 Reference ID:pg 39
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13 Jun 2014 15:41 |
Name: James Hopper Birth Date: null Birthplace: null Age: null Spouse's Name: Mary Powell Spouse's Birth Date: null Spouse's Birthplace: null Spouse's Age: null Event Date: 28 Oct 1833 Event Place: Coldred, Kent, England Father's Name: null Mother's Name: null Spouse's Father's Name: null Spouse's Mother's Name: null Race: null Marital Status: null Previous Wife's Name: null Spouse's Race: null Spouse's Marital Status: null Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: null Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00784-2 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1786278 Reference ID: item 1 p 3 rn 11
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LondonBelle
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13 Jun 2014 15:43 |
Name: Charlotte Hopper Gender: Female Baptism Date: 30 Dec 1838 Baptism Place: Coldred, Kent, England Father: James Hopper Mother: Mary Hopper FHL Film Number: 1786278
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13 Jun 2014 15:46 |
I have managed to secure extra time to reply to your question
Charlotte Hopper who married William Gilham is the daughter of James Hopper 1806-1866 who is the son of James 1783 and Mary Ivens.
The last child is Johnathan 1814 who married Mary Cleaver
Edmund married Maria Alsop = 3x great grandparents
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Chris Ho :)
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13 Jun 2014 16:04 |
Baptism County Kent Place Lydden Church St Mary the Virgin RegisterNumber 298 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 16 Jan 1859 Forename Charles Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Charlotte FatherSurname GILHAM MotherSurname Abode Lydden FatherOccupation Laborer
Burial County Kent Place Lydden Church St Mary the Virgin RegisterNumber 184 BurialDate * Sep 1861 Forename William Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname GILHAM Age 16m Abode Lydden Notes Entered before the 13 Sep 1861
Burial County Kent Place Lydden Church St Mary the Virgin RegisterNumber 191 BurialDate 15 Jan 1863 Forename James Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname GILHAM Age 4m Abode Coldred
(perhaps relating, from below link)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Chris :)
edits (Find My Past have quite a bit of Kent)
Canterbury Baptisms Transcription First Name Charlotte Last Name Hopper Day 30 Month Dec Year 1838 Father's First Name James (Labourer) Mother's Given Name Mary Place Coldred, St Pancras County Kent Year Range 1813-1997 Archive Reference U3/190 Record set Canterbury Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records (abode, Coldred)
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13 Jun 2014 16:08 |
Name: Edwin Hooper Birth Date: 1844 Birthplace: null Age: 24 Spouse's Name: Maria Alsop Spouse's Birth Date: 1848 Spouse's Birthplace: null Spouse's Age: 20 Event Date: 1868 Event Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng. Father's Name: John Hooper Mother's Name: null Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Alsop Spouse's Mother's Name: null Race: null Marital Status: null Previous Wife's Name: null Spouse's Race: null Spouse's Marital Status: null Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: null Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05521-3 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1526219 Reference ID: 2:3QQ190K
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13 Jun 2014 16:12 |
Note of Caution: There are two Charlotte Hoppers born around the same time in Coldred
ame: Charlotte Hopper Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Hopper Mother's name: Mary Hopper Gender: Female Where born: Coldred, Kent, England Civil Parish: Sibertswold County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Piece: 1632 Folio: 876 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age James Hopper 40 Mary Hopper 40 Mary Ann Hopper 14 Charlotte Hopper 12 Ellen Hopper 10 Jane Hopper 8 George Hopper 6 Edward Hopper 3 Sarah Hopper 8 Mo AND
Name: Charlotte Hopper Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Hopper Mother's name: Rebecka Hopper Gender: Female Where born: Coldred, Kent, England Civil Parish: Coldred County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 11 Piece: 1632 Folio: 849 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Hopper 44 Rebecka Hopper 40 Charles Hopper 16 Fredrick Hopper 12 Charlotte Hopper 10 George Hopper 8 Robert Hopper 6 William Hopper 4 Sarah Hopper 1
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Chris Ho :)
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13 Jun 2014 16:26 |
Canterbury Marriage Banns Transcription (Find My Past)
Banns Year 1858 Banns Month Oct Banns Day 24 Place Lydden , St Mary the Virgin Year Of Marriage 1858 Bride First Charlotte (Spinster) Bride Last Name Hopper Bride Parish Shepherdswell Groom First Name William (Bachelor) Groom Last Name Gillham Groom Parish Lydden County Kent Archive Reference U3/207/1/4 Year Range 1754-1908 Record set Canterbury Marriage Banns (called, 24th 31st Oct. 7th Nov.)
Chris :)
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Mark
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13 Jun 2014 16:29 |
Thank you Chris
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LondonBelle
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13 Jun 2014 16:40 |
Have you got a copy of Charlotte's marriage certificate to confirm who her father was?
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Mark
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13 Jun 2014 16:45 |
I shall be back tomorrow i have seconds remaining sorry
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Chris Ho :)
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13 Jun 2014 17:01 |
Kent Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)
Groom's first name Richard Milton Groom's last name Willson Marriage year 1885 Marriage day 6 Marriage month Sep Bride's first name Charlotte Bride's last name Hopper Marriage place Sittingbourne Church St Michael Groom's residence Otp Bride's residence TP Groom's age Full Age Bride's age Full Age Groom's status Widower Bride's status Spinster Groom's occupation Mariner Groom's father's name Richard Groom's father's occupation Mariner Bride's father's name Robert Bride's father's occupation Deceased County Kent Record Source Sittingbourne St Michael marriages 1837-1902 Record set Kent Marriages
1891 Richard M Willson Head Married Male 43 1848 Master Manufacturer Kent (Master Mariner Seas on image) Charlotte Willson Wife Married Female 49 1842 - Kent (Coldred) George Brice Lodger Single Male 16 1875 Wheelwright Kent Arthur Stephens Lodger Single Male 21 1870 Wheelwright Kent Percy H Heselden Lodger Single Male 21 1870 Printer Compositor Sussex Street William Street Parish Milton Next Town Milton County Kent Country England Parliamentary borough North East Kent Ecclesiastical district Milton Registration district Milton Enumeration district 18 Series RG12 Piece number 717 Folio number 47 Page 10
(wonder if other Charlotte?)
Chris :)
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