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have been trying to find him before his marriage to Emma Calloway Pyke in August 1882 in London .They had a daughter Ellen Worsdorfer born Nov.1884 in West Croydon Surrey England. Johanne died in London October 1906 and Emma died Nov.1928 Surrey England .
I,ve been unsuccessful in finding when he came to England and anything of his family .

They had 3 children according to the 1891 census:


Peter Warsdorfer
[Peter Worsdorfer]
Age:39
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1852
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Emma Warsdorfer
Gender:Male
Where born:Koblenz, GermanyGermany] [Germany]
Civil Parish:Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish:St Thomas
Town:Lambeth
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district:Lambeth
Sub-registration district:Waterloo Road Second
ED, institution, or vessel:5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece:390
Folio:26
Page Number:50
Household Members:
NameAge
Peter Warsdorfer 39
Emma Warsdorfer 30
Thomas Warsdorfer 10
Ellen Warsdorfer 6
Edwin Warsdorfer 7

Could he have been married previously, in 1881 Peter, a Tailor (as 1891) is with Maria (born Devon) and son Thomas (5 or 7 months) at 28 Great Windmill st.

Name: Peter Worsdosper
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Marie Worsdosper
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany
Civil Parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 28 Gt Windmill St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Tailor
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: Berwick Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 127
Folio: 49
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Worsdosper 30
Marie Worsdosper 31
Thomas Worsdosper

Strange, when Ellen was christened her father was recorded as Johann Peter, but when she married 26/12/1904 she named his as Peter, deceased tailor - but the death appears to be 1906??

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
Easterbrook Maria Totnes 5b 323

Worsdorfer Peter Totnes 5b 323


Deaths Jun 1882 (>99%)

Worstorfer Maria 33 Westminster 1a 330

Just as an aside- I really doubt that his wife was Emma Cal*way PYKE!

Maureen

1861
MATTHIAS WIRSDORF HEAD MARRIED Male 39 1822 TAILOR GERMANY
MARTHA WIRSDORF WIFE MARRIED Female 28 1833 - WILTSHIRE
ELIZA WIRSDORF DAUGHTER - Female 6 1855 - LONDON, MIDDLESEX
Street POLAND STREET
Parish ST JAMES WESTMINSTER
City or borough WESTMINSTER
County London, Middlesex
Country ENGLAND
Parliamentary borough WESTMINSTER
Ecclesiastical district ST LUKE
Registration district ST JAMES WESTMINSTER
Enumeration district 7
Piece number 61
Page number 18
Folio number 55


England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869 (Ancestry)

Name: Mattheus Wersdorf
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 15 May 1851
Country of Origin/Native of: Nassau

(probably no relation!, noticed same area and occ.)

Chris :)

Marriages Jun 1854 (>99%)
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Newman Martha Foot? Holborn 1b 620
NEWMAN Martha Foot Holborn 1b 620
WIRSDORF Matthias Holborn 1b 620
WUSDORF Matthias Holborn 1b 620

(from above image, on Ancestry, his Father John, occ. Farmer)


edits (looking at 1882 Marriage image (Find My Past) Father of Johann as, Johann Worsdorfer Farmer decd.)

He's a tailor on marriage of son Edwin:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Edwin Worsdorfer
Name: Edwin Worsdorfer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 24
Spouse Name: Frances Harriet Griggs
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Nov 1916
Parish: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: John Peter Worsdorfer
Spouse Father: William Griggs
Register Type: Parish Register

EDIT. Edwin was a soldier at time of marriage:

Medal Card:

Name: Edwin Worsdorfer
Regiment or Corps: Middlesex Regiment
Regimental Number: G/36859

Victory Medal and British War Medal

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Maria Worrdorfer
[Maria Worsdorfer]
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Albert Ernest Miller
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Dec 1907
Parish: St Paul, Dock Street
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Spouse Father: Ernest Miller
Register Type: Parish Register

Father is recorded as John Peter Worsdorfer, tailor, deceased.

Looks like Maria was a witness at her sister Ellen's wedding in 1904.

I agree with Maureen, Emma Calloway/Callaway Pyke seems to have died a spinster:

Census 1911:

Name: Emma Callaway Pyke
Age in 1911: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hackney, London, England
Civil Parish: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 12 Springfield Road, Wimbledon S W
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Kingston
Registration District Number: 40
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 253
Piece: 3470
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Pyke 83
Emma Callaway Pyke 45
Alice Eva Towills 23

Birth & Baptism:

Name: Emma Calloway Pyke
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1861
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 331

Name: Emma Callaway Pyke
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1861
Father's Name: Charles Pyke
Mother's name: Emma Pyke
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St Peter
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Probate:

Name: Emma Callaway Pyke
Probate Date: 15 Mar 1929
Death Date: 11 Nov 1928
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: Winchester

Described as spinster

i can't spot them in 1901, anyone have any more luck?

Just plain Emma Pike on the marriage

Marriages Sep 1882
BROWN Mary Westminster
Pennycook Charles Westminster
Pike Emma Westminster<<<<<<<<<<<
Worsdorfer Johann Peter Westminster<<<<<<<<<<

Not finding them on the 1901 census either, or Maria, supposedly born c1885, in the 1891 census.

Wife was Emma Mary.....

EDIT BUT NO SIGN OF NAME MARY ON THE IMAGE ITSELF

First Name EMMA MARY
Last Name PIKE
Year Of Marriage 1882
Month Of Marriage Aug
Day Of Marriage 20
Place ST JAMES, PICCADILLY
Parish St James The Less, Thorndike Street
Spouse Forename JOHANNA PETER
Spouse Surname WORSDORFER
Bride Age Full
Bride Parish -
Groom Age Full
Groom Parish -
County Middlesex
Record set Westminster Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
Westminster Archives

Groom was Johanna Peter, widower, of full age, a tailor, son of Johann Worsdorfer, farmer, decd.

Emma Pike was a spinster of full age, daur of Thomas Pike engineer decd.

Both bride and groom gave address of 21 Brewer St.

One witness was an Elizabeth Pike. I think there are two others, Heinrich Illegible and can't read the other one either.

EDIT: Seems to have been over written as Heinrich William Thilo (or Philo) Bradlaugh (surname might be misread), so just the two witnesses after all.

Devon Marriage Registers 1537-2002 (Find My Past)
First name(s) Peter (Bachelor. Tailor)
Last name Worsdorfer
Birth year 1851
Age 28
Marriage year 1879
Marriage date 11 Nov 1879
Marriage place Buckfastleigh, Holy Trinity
Residence Westminster St James
Spouse's first name Maria
Spouse's last name Easterbrook
Spouse age 30
Spouse's residence Buckfastleigh
Father's first name John (Farmer)
Father's last name Worsdorfer
Spouse's father's first name Nicholas (Labourer)
Spouse's father's last name Easterbrook
County Devon
Country England
Archive reference 3639A/PR/1/10
Record set Devon Marriages

Chris :)


Burial Register summary
last name WORSDORFER
first names MARIA
Burial date 16 May 1882
Authority Brompton Cemetery
Location Brompton Cemetery (Kensington and Chelsea)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Just to say that the 1882 marriage image states Emma Pike's father to be Thomas Pike, a deceased engineer.


Emma Calloway/Callaway Pyke's father was Charles, a retired customs clerk according to census 1901.

When Thomas was enrolled at school his previous school was Norman's school, Glasgow - so I wonder they had more children born in Scotland?? Their address when he enrolled was 140 Westminster Bridge Road: ADDED - this was the address on 1891 census

Thomas Worsdorfer
Age:10
Birth Date:14 Jul 1880
School:St John And All Saints School
Borough:Lambeth
Admission Date:1 Jun 1891
Parent:Peter
Notes:Comber Grove School (0385) opened in 1877. Originally named Leipsic Road School until 1921, then renamed Comber Grove School. Closed or reorganised in 195-
Reference Number:LCC/EO/DIV08/STJOHI/AD/006

Looks like the two marriages are definitely for the same chap, with father John/Johann being a deceased farmer.

Was daughter Maria named after the first wife?

Message from Teresa:

"thank you so much for the information I appreciate your help .
I think Ive a bit of sorting out to do !!"

I've suggested it is better to post on the thread rather than by PM - so everyone can see and give more help if necessary.