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Francis Sholto who are you?

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Pappa

Pappa Report 1 Jun 2014 01:48

Hello, i was going through some old photos that i have and found one with writing on the back,

To me the name looks like FRANCIS SHOLTO. the photo was taken by a Walter Blackall in Folkestone Kent.
Someone said that Walter was in Folkestone in 1881 but in 1891 in Oxfordshire.

Francis Sholto was possibly born between 1881 and 1891, i would like to trace his family to pass on the photo possibly.

any help appreciated

Mfm

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jun 2014 05:11

strange



I can't find any sign of a Francis Sholto on ancestry


could you have mis-interpreted the spelling?

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jun 2014 07:18

No-one on genes has a Sholto born in that time frame.

Google searches does not show anything, or points to the Queensberrys.

There is an F (also F B) Sholto in London phonebooks, but he appears to be Frederick, born 1891.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2014 07:42

Was Walter a professional photographer or would this be a friend taking family photos?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2014 07:49

Ahh he was the photographer
1881 census
Name: Walter Blackall
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Sarah J. Blackall
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheale, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 9 Church St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Photograph Artist Employ 1 Asst
Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1009
Folio: 73
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Blackall 36
Sarah J. Blackall 33
William E. Blackall 4
Walter G. Blackall 3
Emily J. Fagg 13 servant
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1009; Folio: 73; Page: 33; GSU roll: 1341239.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2014 07:54

Name: Walter Blackall
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Sarah S Blackall
Where born: Theale, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: Oxford
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Street address:9 Magdelen street

Occupation:photographic artist

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Oxford
Sub-registration district: Oxford
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1167
Folio: 122
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Blackall 46
Sarah S Blackall 43
William E Blackall 14
Gilbert W Blackall 13
Bertha M Blackall 6
Edith Pullen 15 servant

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1167; Folio: 122; Page: 9; GSU Roll: 6096277.

So that info you have was correct

Pappa

Pappa Report 1 Jun 2014 07:57

Hi free bmd has some sholtos but not a francis.it does look like that spelling maybe the time frame is not right.

Thanks to all for looking.

Mfm

Pappa

Pappa Report 1 Jun 2014 07:57

Hi free bmd has some sholtos but not a francis.it does look like that spelling maybe the time frame is not right.

Thanks to all for looking.

Mfm

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2014 08:06

Well he was in Folkestone in 1871 too

He was an assistant photographer to the head of house Thomas Newman

Name: Walter Blackall
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Theale, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Folkestone Christchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 181
Piece: 1015
Folio: 100
Page Number: 26

Address 11 Ford Road
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Newman 26 occ photographer
Elizabeth Newman 30
Thomas Newman 5
William Newman 2
Walter Blackall 26

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1015; Folio: 100; Page: 26; GSU roll: 827263.

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jun 2014 08:14

Free bmd does not have any births until 1922 of 'Sholto'
(They are probably children of the Fred that I mentioned above in telephone directories)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jun 2014 08:16

Is the picture of a young child?

If so it could be the mothers name on the back

Wonder about this one

1881 England Census about Frederick C.B. Shoults
Name: Frederick C.B. Shoults
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Frederick C. Shoults
Mother: Francis Shoults
Gender: Male
Where born: Canterbury, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Whitstable
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Middle Wall
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Blean
Sub-registration district: Whitstable
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 964
Folio: 39
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick C. Shoults 48 land and house owner
Francis Shoults 26
Frederick C.B. Shoults 2
Mary Branchett 18 servant

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 964; Folio: 39; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1341229.

I know the mums name isn't spelt correctly but people did mix up the spelling of Francis/Frances

Pappa

Pappa Report 1 Jun 2014 09:34

hello again,the photo/card is 6.5 cm x 10.5 cm and called a instantaneuous portrait.
the child is 3months old 33ibs in weight, i cannot say its not Francis SHOLTO,


Best wishes mfm

Flip

Flip Report 1 Jun 2014 10:17

Sholto is a boys christian name - origins in Scotland, and Gaelic. This may therefore be your man:

Francis Sholto Rolfe
Probate Date:17 Dec 1953
Death Date:1 Dec 1953
Death Place:Folkestone
Registry:London, England
(Of 91 Moorhall ave, Folkestone) Probate granted to Sholto William Henry Rolfe

His death index:

Francis S Rolfe
Birth Date:abt 1882
Date of Registration:Dec 1953
Age at Death:71
Registration district:Folkestone
Inferred County:Kent
Volume:5b
Page:504

Flip

Flip Report 1 Jun 2014 10:21

His birth:


Births Sep 1882 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rolfe Francis Sholto Elham 2a1007

Probate probably granted to his son:


Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ROLFE Sholto W H Nicholls
Elham 2a2274



Flip

Flip Report 1 Jun 2014 10:43

His wife was Florence Lois (nee Nicholls) - she died in 1948 at the same address and probate was granted to the son.

Son married Edna M Lott in 1937, and there is 1 son born in 1943 Sittingbourne. Sholto W H was an entomologist, and died 1994 reg Canterbury.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Jun 2014 10:43

Following up on Flip's find:

1911 England Census
about Francis Sholts Rolfe Name: Francis Sholts Rolfe
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lyminge, Kent
Civil Parish: Lyminge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: West View Cottage, Station Rd, Lyminge, Folkestone, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Carpenter and Joiner
Registration district: Elham
Registration District Number: 66
Sub-registration district: Elham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 4656
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Sholts Rolfe 28
Florence Lois Rolfe 28



Flip

Flip Report 1 Jun 2014 10:59

A tree on ancestry has a photo of Francis & Florence's marriage - it also has their son, who apparently had 2 sons (private, as I assume still alive), but I only spotted the 1 in 1943.

Added: It looks like the other son was reg in West Ashford in 1940.

Pappa

Pappa Report 1 Jun 2014 11:02

Dear Flip and Margee,

Hey i think you have found him, just two of his name could have been possibly put on the reverse of the photo.

You both have helped so much thankyou.

Best wishes mfm

Flip

Flip Report 1 Jun 2014 11:05

You're welcome, maybe someone with FMP can track down the grandsons addresses. I haven't posted their names, but they are easily found in the index.

Pappa

Pappa Report 1 Jun 2014 11:09

cheers flip, i really appreciate your help

Mfm