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Carol

Carol Report 27 May 2014 19:15

Trying to find information on a Patrick A Redsell married to a Eva Woolsey she was born in 1908 in Dartford Kent. :-D

Sirius

Sirius Report 27 May 2014 19:20

Do you have the marriage certificate for his father's name?

Sirius

Sirius Report 27 May 2014 19:22

possible given location

1911 England Census about Patrick Redsell
Name: Patrick Redsell
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dartford, Kent
Civil Parish: Wilmington
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 3 Courtney Avenue, Wilmington, Dartford
Registration district: Dartford
Registration District Number: 43
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 148
Piece: 3789
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Redsell 38 widower
Mary Broad 46 <<<< housekeeper
Phyllis Redsell 14
Thomas Redsell 13
Isaac Redsell 10
Patrick Redsell 9
Phoebe Redsell 6

Carol

Carol Report 27 May 2014 19:22

no sorry

Carol

Carol Report 27 May 2014 19:26

Thank you very much could be him I think I should get a marriage certificate.

Sirius

Sirius Report 27 May 2014 19:27

If that is the family there is clearly a connection with the Broad family also

1901 England Census about Phillis Redsell
Name: Phillis Redsell
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Arthur Redsell
Mother: Mary A Redsell
Birth Place: Dartford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Dartford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Dartford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 703
Folio: 144
Page Number: 35
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Redsell 39
Mary A Redsell 37
George Broad 16
Alice Broad 14
Phillis Redsell 4
Thomas Redsell 2
Isaac Redsell 4 Months

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 May 2014 19:29

Marriages Mar 1927
Redsell Patrick A Woolsey Dartford 2a 972
WOOLSEY Eva REDSELL Dartford 2a 972


They had one child born Dartford reg ,her birth is on FreeBMD

Have you followed up on her ?

Edit looks like Joan married in 1958 and died in 1968

First name(s) JOAN A
Last name SPILLETT
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1926
Age 42
Death quarter 2
Death year 1968
District DARTFORD
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 5F
Page 270



So no help there

Carol

Carol Report 27 May 2014 19:30

wow I hope it is him .Thank you so much :-)

Sirius

Sirius Report 27 May 2014 19:35

Just a guess as I cannot see a birth for Patrick , this 'could' be him if he was registered by his middle name
Dec 1902

REDSELL Albert Dartford 2a 566

there doesn't appear to be a matching Albert in 1911?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 May 2014 19:38

Births Jun 1908
Woolsey Eva Dartford 2a 680a

Carol

Carol Report 27 May 2014 19:38

Ok Thank you very much for your help.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 May 2014 19:57

Wonder is someone had her dob wrong

Name: Eva Redsell
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1912
Date of Registration: Dec 1998
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Sedgemoor
Inferred County: Somerset
Register Number: 63
District and Subdistrict: 7231
Entry Number: 132

Carol

Carol Report 27 May 2014 20:04

not eva she is buried in Wilmington Dartford kent.
thank you though

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2014 07:34

So was she still married to Patrick when she died ?if so her death cert should state if she was wife or widow of Patrick

Or did she remarry ?

Print this page View image
First name EVA
Last name REDSELL
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1932
Potential spouse's name(s) BERNARD D CASEY
Spouse's last name CASEY
District DARTFORD
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 2240

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2014 07:45

Looks like she did

Print this page View image
First name(s) EVA
Last name CASEY
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1909
Age 51
Death quarter 3
Death year 1960
District DARTFORD
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 423

?
So was she divorced or a widow when she remarried

Carol

Carol Report 28 May 2014 09:01

I asked mum yes she did remarry. Thank you so much for your kind help. Much appreciated . :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2014 09:25

Wonder what happened to Patrick then as not seeing a death for him before Eva remarried

Not seeing a new marriage for him either.

But as you want info of him the best way is to get their marriage cert to see who he gives as his dad , then you can go back further on his parents etc

Carol

Carol Report 28 May 2014 11:02

Thank you so much everyone for your hard work .Will get certificate and let u know then.

Mary

Mary Report 28 May 2014 15:50

tree on Ancestry has a Patrick Walter Redsell 1903-1983 son of Arthur Alfred Redsell 1873-1931 and Mary Ann Broad nee Lawler 1862-1927..

I can't find the birth for him either!!

Maryb.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 May 2014 05:15

here's the Patrick Walter Redsell b. 1903 that Mary found, on the 1911 ............. shown only as Patrick


1911 Census

Name: Patrick Redsell
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dartford, Kent
Civil Parish: Wilmington
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 3 Courtney Avenue, Wilmington, Dartford
Registration district: Dartford
Registration District Number: 43
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 148
Piece: 3789

Arthur Redsell 38 b.ca 1873, Dartford, Kent, Widowed, Carman
Mary Broad 46 b.ca 1865, Dartford, Single, Housekeeper,
Phyllis Redsell 14
Thomas Redsell 13
Isaac Redsell 10
Patrick Redsell 9
Phoebe Redsell 6


All children born Dartford




I note that another Ancestry tree has this Patrick married to Eva Woolsey



IF the above is the family of the Patrick we are looking for ......................... then several of the children do not appear to have been registered.

I've tried searching under Redsell, Broad and Lawler.

I've also taken advantage of freebmd wild card ability, and looked for christian name alone and with r* / b*


The only registrations that I think I have found are for Thomas b. 1898, Isaac, b. ca 1900, and Phoebe, 1905


Plus. the registration for Albert that Sirius found