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1891 Census help

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Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 14:40

Hi

My relative, Jane Wesson, is on 1891 census as Jane Weston, living in Croydon but as being born in 1818 Swartley (Ancestry) or Swantley (FMP), both in Oxfordshire. I can't find either of those places on a map, and don't know the area at all. Any suggestions please for where she might have been born?

Other censuses show her as being born in Warwickshire, Malden in Surrey, Mitcham in Surrey, so I really have no idea.

Thanks in advance
Sue

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 May 2014 14:50

Is this her ?

1861


Jane Wesson
Age:43
Estimated birth year1818
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:James Wesson
Where born:Sunbely, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish:Croydon

James Wesson 53
Jane Wesson 43
James Wesson 23
Eliza Wesson 21
Elizabeth Wesson 19
Joseph Wesson 16
William Wesson 14
Ellen Wesson 12
Emma Wesson 4
George Wesson 3
Paul Wesson 1

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 May 2014 14:52

1871


Jane Wesson
Age:52
Estimated birth year:abt 1819
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:James Wesson
Where born:Malden, Surrey, England
Civil Parish:Croydon

James Wesson 68
Jane Wesson 52
James Wesson 32
Joseph Wesson 25
William Wesson 22
Ellen Wesson 20
Emma Wesson 14
F Wesson 11 ..............PAUL
Thomas Wesson 4
William Wesson 1

Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 14:53

Yes Mike that's her. I forgot the Sunbely birth place. Can't find that place either!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2014 14:57

Where was she married? It would most likely be close to where she was born, of not the same place.

Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 15:03

I can't find where she was married yet, but it doesn't appear to be in Croydon, where she lived from at least 1841. It isn't helped that her husband James also has several different birth places according to censuses. these include Bromley Kent, Malding in Surrey and Dudley Oxfordshire. I thought that the last one seemed hopeful but I can't see that Dudley would ever have been in Oxfordshire - isn't it too far north?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 May 2014 15:03

Is this her marriage:-

First name JAMES
Last name WESTON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1838
Potential Spouse Names MARY ANN SMITH, ***JANE LANGFORD***
Spouse -
District KINGSTON
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 4
Page 254A

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 May 2014 15:05

Birth cert for mother's maiden name

Births Dec 1859
WESSON Paul - Croydon 2a 170

Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 15:09

Kath
I've looked at that marriage before, and it's definitely a possible. Their oldest child (by 1841 census) was born about then. I've tried Surrey marriages but can't find any more details than that.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2014 15:10

Another version of (presumably) that marriage record, with fathers' names:


Surrey, England, Marriages, 1754-1937 about James Weston
Name: James Weston
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 28 Oct 1838
Archive Provided Parish: Malden, St John
Parish as it Appears: Malden
Spouse: Jane Langford
Father: James Weston
Spouse Father: Thomas Langford
Reference Number: 2473/1/7

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 May 2014 15:11

Definitely Weston on Original image

Jane Langford
Marriage Date:28 Oct 1838

Archive Provided Parish:Malden, St John

Parish as it Appears:Malden
Spouse:James Weston

Spouse Age:Full Age
Father:Thomas Langford
Spouse Father:James Weston

safc

safc Report 10 May 2014 15:13

????

James Weston, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: James Weston
Age (Original): 66
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1815
Birthplace: Esher, Surrey, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Agr Lab
Address: Woodfield
Event Place: Ashtead, Surrey, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341178
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 761 / 5
Page Number: 4
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head James Weston M 66 Esher, Surrey, England
Wife Jane Weston F 57 Epsom, Surrey, England
Son Josiah Weston M 38 Maldon, Surrey, England
Grand Son Josiah Venn M 10 Ashtead, Surrey, England
Grand Daughter Amy Venn F 6 Ashtead, Surrey, England
Grand Daughter Annie Venn F 3 Ashtead, Surrey, England

Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 15:14

No, I remember now. I explored that for a while, but James and Jane Weston appear together in later censuses, born Ashstead I believe. I can't find where Malden is either. So frustrating.

Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 15:15

Yes safc, that's the 'other' family and nothing to do with mine.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 May 2014 15:16

Old Malden and New Malden are just to the east of Surbiton, Surrey

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 May 2014 15:20

Maldon is a town on the Blackwater estuary in Essex

Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 15:22

I know of New Malden, but had no idea that such a place as Old Malden exists.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 May 2014 15:24

Old Malden is slightly south of New Malden. It is on Memory-Map.

Kath. x

Sue

Sue Report 10 May 2014 15:24

Mike, I think with Surrey, Warwickshire and Oxfordshire in the equation, I really don't want to introduce Essex as well!

safc

safc Report 10 May 2014 15:26

????

Jane Lankford, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Jane Lankford
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 23 Nov 1823
Christening Place: CHARLBURY,OXFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Lankford
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03207-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 95225
Reference ID: