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Hi I have been trying to find my Grandfather... Lawrence Jarvis Laws. I can't find any person with that name, whatsoever . All I know is that he had a Liaison with my Grandmother and in 1929 my Father was born. His father is NOT on his birth certificate, but his name is on the Hospital records as being the father of unknown address. The hospital was "The Mothers Hospital" 59 Powerscroft rd. E5. My Grandmother address is noted as 21 Henslaw Abersyhan, but also notes her last address as Kemble rd Tottenham. Gran was born in 1910, So Lawrence Jarvis Laws may be around the same age or older. Can anyone find this mans name anywhere please. Any help gratefully appreciated, Thankyou. Maria

can we have the name of your grandmother please

Beatrice May Whitelock born 1910 Burnham on Sea Dorset, she was an unmarried mother who later had my father adopted at the age of three when she remarried. Bothe my Grandmother and father are deceased. Thankyou Ann

Might Abersythan be Abersychan, near Pontypool?

Do you have a house number for Kemble Road? Although she wouldn't have been eligible to vote, it might be possible to find out who she was living with. They may have no connection to the father, but could be other Whitelock relatives.

She might have been 'sent away' once her pregnancy become obvious

Yes That's correct Detective :) I have her tree and have done well with that. But Lawrence Jarvis Laws remains a mystery. I can't find one Person with the middle name Jarvis.. He is a mystery.

Was just trying to establish a time-line. If we could work out were she was living 9 months previously, there is more chance of finding a Lawrence Laws, even if his middle name wasn't Jarvis!

The only Lawrence J Laws that appears on any England/Wales records married in 1954 (need to double check that) which does seem a little later for a first marriage after a 1929 liaison.

EDIT married 1949, Wisbech, Cambs
2nd edit - the marriage may be for the one born 1920 in Cheshire, so a no-go

Only one that comes up

Births Jun 1910
LAWS Lawrence Cyril Islington 1b 149


He married in 1934 Brentford reg district

Stayed in the area

Death
First name(s) LAWRENCE CYRIL
Last name LAWS
Gender Male
Birth day 1
Birth month 3
Birth year 1910
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1996
District HARROW
District number 2321
County Middlesex

There's a Lawrence J Laws marrying in 1949 Wisbeach Cambs

Edit he was born in 1920

First name(s) LAWRENCE JOHN
Last name LAWS
Gender Male
Birth day 25
Birth month 9
Birth year 1920
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1996
District FENLAND
District number 3382
County Cambridgeshire
Country England

Which marriage are you attributing to Beatrice please? I can only see 2, neither would be when your father was 3 years old.

Sorry detective and Shirley my internet kept dropping out. 3 Kemble Rd is the answer detective. Your bringing up the same as me Shirley. Looking at their ages I don't think that is them. I am finding Jarvis laws, but they seem to be born late 1700's and mid 1800's, perhaps he is a descendant ,but you would think there would be a birth record.. frustrating.

Maybe born Scotland - have you looked there?

No I have not Flip, I should give that a try. Thankyou,

There's a tree on ancestry with attached photo and birth cert - also has details of her siblings. it is claiming she married in 1947 in Edmondton - and there is a Beatrice May Whitelock on the London ERs up to 1939 - so did she ever return to her family I wonder.

I have met Whitelock family members through GR and have some photos, she was in the Salvation Army as was members of her Family. She married an Atkinson. And was a lovely lady by all accounts. Sadly my father and grandmother never met, and they both died in recent years :( But know one knows who L J laws was at all. I only received info on Beatrice herself and received copies of the hospital documents after hiring a researcher with the Salvation Army, and found she was part of the Salvo's all along. Thanks Flip x

I wonder whether she was packed off to London when pregnant, so we would be looking for the father back in her home town.

That's my thinking Flip.

Maria - I can only find the even numbered houses for Kemble Rd. So Frustrating!

It is/was in Tottenham North ward, in the Haringey constituency. It might be possible to plough through the whole data base - London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 on Ancestry. Not every year is listed.

Her family are from Burnham on Sea Somerset. Her father and mother were in The Salvation Army so you perhaps have to add that she may have been raped ? She was well cared for I know that and she hung on to my dad for three years, so her new husband must have insisted she give him up, So Sad

Funny thing is though they adopted their first child a daughter then went on to have two of their own !! Just looked at my records, she did not marry until later so the new hubby was not the reason ...

We wouldn't be looking in Somerset, as the family were in Pontypool area by 1915 - although I don't know exactly when. If she was packed off then the search would be around Pontypool. However, if she was already in London before getting pregnant, we should be looking in London.